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Author:  Tyrones101@hotmail.com [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:49 am ]
Post subject:  The Game from a girls perspetive

Ok, So heres a blog from myspace I did and girls response to it.



heir was this feirce burning fire with in me
This raging anger
I was simmering,
and it was so much it was like I was ready to explode.


It happans, all across the country, the office lights go off, the neon bar lights come on, and the quest for romance begins, they say some men got it, and some don't, some men are smooth and some are not, but there is a new movement at foot, saying, you can be tought.

In late 2007 a co worker gave me a book , called, the game, by Neil Strauss, and in this book, it tells the story of a man, who entered a comunity of pick up artist. and he went from, what they call Average Frustrated Chump, to, Mpua. with in a year, he was a rock jourlalist. who had only been kissed by Tommy Lee, Now, hes dating the lead gutarist for, Courtney Love.

Reading the book, and learning about this new movment, was a new revelation for me, becouse now, suddenly there were soultions to my problems,

and the path towards healing began.

I started reading more books on pick up, chating online, rechiveing newsletters, on a wide range of subjects regarding pick up
Some might say, this is, munipulitive, desprete, even pathetic, I on other hand beg to differ.
Most of what Neil Strauss learned was from the mystery method, a method that sytematically takes men through the steps to show that they are the tribal leader of their community that women, are evalutionarly designed to seek out.

But you might ask, we does this all begin

theirs the neg, sort for, negitive, they sugest, instead of complementing a women, tease her, mock her, mystery suggest saying, "you are such a little shit, you know why me and you, will never get along, becouse were too simular, I wouldnt take your shit, you wouldnt take my shit. Or more simply, "you are such a brat, how do you guys deal with this girl".
Most guys, doubt this when they first try it, but most have found it works like a charm.

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aldebaran


You know, I've been reading your blogs for a while now, and I wasn't going to bother commenting, but I don't think I can restrain myself any longer.

You are trying way too hard. It seems that you're obsessed with dating, and have put women on this unreachable pedestal. Desperation is not sexy. And women aren't goddesses, they're people. You need to relate to girls in the same way you relate to guys, as friends. How do you find friends?-- You focus on your hobbies and interests, and you go to places and events where you will meet other people who share your interests. If you start developing friendships with women, relationships can happen much more naturally. The majority of women are looking for someone to bond with. Even if you just want sex (which is kind of lame, if that's the case), you first have to create a bond, otherwise she won't open up to the possibility of anything more. Even if you find that some women just want to be friend with you, you will still become more comfortable being around girls, and gain insight into how they think.

For one, women don't respond well to game-playing. Those who do are probably a little psycho, and they're not the ones you want to meet anyway. Most women can instantly tell if a guy is trying to "pick her up", and it's an instant turn-off, even if she would normally be attracted to the guy. If she's interested, you'll know it. You won't have to go through elaborate, structured rituals and analysis to make her like you, it will just happen. You just have to be yourself, and be friendly, but not overly attentive. That book you're reading?-- I've seen it at the bookstore, and it's scary. No girl I know would fall for that crap. What a gigantic waste of time.

The sad truth is, as long as you're desperate to find someone, you won't. Neediness is repulsive. People like people who are confident, interesting, and passionate about life. If you focus on developing your life/hobbies/career, and you're passionate about something (girls don't count), girls will find you attractive, and will want to be around you. So will everyone else. Of course, you should still make an effort to groom yourself well, and be polite and aware of how you come across socially, but otherwise, let your dynamic personality do the attracting for you, not some book. Just be yourself, stop trying so hard, and it will happen.

Author:  Bonita [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:08 am ]
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I don't think this girl really understands what the book is about. On one level, it is a game and one of the goals is to show you how to f close on a first date and what-not. But on another level it teaches how to open girls and techniques to attract women. I am a girl and I have heard it before: "I don't know why guys don't just come up to us and talk to us...it's not like we bite." But everyone is afraid of rejection and girls will say they are easy to approach but when they feel a guy is too aggressive or just not interesting enough they move on leaving the guy with the feeling that approaching women is a lost hope. The book is by no means a cookie-cutter plan to get guys laid 100% of the time. They are tools that must be refined. Many times there is a guy that is nervous at first but once you get to know him he is really great....the problem is, girls don't give him a chance and don't get to know that great guy. This book is to help guys get past that obstacle so that they can be themselves later. Obviously a meaningful relationship cannot exist on games alone...but if this girl understood the book she would realize that the purpose is to overcome her bitch shield which she is obviously demonstrating.

Author:  callmecaptain [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:22 am ]
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I am mentally clapping my hands. Wait now I'm clapping for real.

I bet she'd change her attitude if she read the book. It really is interesting for both sexes.

Anyone subscribe to Style's email list?

I heard about how Dr. Phil invited 2 of the PUAs (from project hollywood i think) on the show and totally made them look bad (while ironically using deception to do so). Well, welcome to the hit list Dr. Phil. you just signed up to get kicked in the balls if I ever see you!

CPT

Author:  ConspiracyTheory [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:26 am ]
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i actually agree with a lot of what she said...

Author:  Marco Polo [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:04 am ]
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i actually agree with a lot of what she said...

Same here! Lot`s of things she mentioned are already well known in PU comunnity but have different names:

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You are trying way too hard. It seems that you're obsessed with dating, and have put women on this unreachable pedestal. Desperation is not sexy. And women aren't goddesses, they're people
NEEDINESS
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You need to relate to girls in the same way you relate to guys, as friends. How do you find friends?-- You focus on your hobbies and interests, and you go to places and events where you will meet other people who share your interests. If you start developing friendships with women, relationships can happen much more naturally
APROACH BELOW THE RADAR / NOT ALARMING HER BITCH SHILED (for young AFC`s - do not confuse the bold part with LJBF zone)
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The majority of women are looking for someone to bond with. Even if you just want sex (which is kind of lame, if that's the case), you first have to create a bond, otherwise she won't open up to the possibility of anything more.
CREATING IMAGE OF HER SOULMATE
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Even if you find that some women just want to be friend with you, you will still become more comfortable being around girls, and gain insight into how they think.
PRESELECTION/SOCIAL PROOF
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For one, women don't respond well to game-playing. Those who do are probably a little psycho, and they're not the ones you want to meet anyway. Most women can instantly tell if a guy is trying to "pick her up", and it's an instant turn-off, even if she would normally be attracted to the guy.
Exactly, she is completely right, but what this smart girl doesn`t know is that we have NEGS exactly for this purpose.
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You just have to be yourself, and be friendly, but not overly attentive
Here she is partially right. In other words she wants a natural who will make her feel great, but if you are not, you can emulate that style with humour, little bit of c&f and thats it. She`ll find you as an interesting natural guy.
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That book you're reading?-- I've seen it at the bookstore, and it's scary. No girl I know would fall for that crap. What a gigantic waste of time.
Well, wrong here, she will read it sooner or later and change her mind :D
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The sad truth is, as long as you're desperate to find someone, you won't. Neediness is repulsive.
Yep, right again!
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People like people who are confident, interesting, and passionate about life. If you focus on developing your life/hobbies/career, and you're passionate about something (girls don't count), girls will find you attractive, and will want to be around you. So will everyone else. Of course, you should still make an effort to groom yourself well, and be polite and aware of how you come across socially, but otherwise, let your dynamic personality do the attracting for you, not some book. Just be yourself, stop trying so hard, and it will happen.
Simple but brilliant. Thats what I`b been saying all the time for the last few years. Stop reading tons of fucking PU books. Work on yourself and your life and stop pretending that you are all of that, BECOME a person like that. It`s a longer way but way more satisfying one!


Great girl, send me her e-mail! :D

Author:  Roads [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:04 pm ]
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I don't think this girl really understands what the book is about. On one level, it is a game and one of the goals is to show you how to f close on a first date and what-not. But on another level it teaches how to open girls and techniques to attract women. I am a girl and I have heard it before: "I don't know why guys don't just come up to us and talk to us...it's not like we bite." But everyone is afraid of rejection and girls will say they are easy to approach but when they feel a guy is too aggressive or just not interesting enough they move on leaving the guy with the feeling that approaching women is a lost hope. The book is by no means a cookie-cutter plan to get guys laid 100% of the time. They are tools that must be refined. Many times there is a guy that is nervous at first but once you get to know him he is really great....the problem is, girls don't give him a chance and don't get to know that great guy. This book is to help guys get past that obstacle so that they can be themselves later. Obviously a meaningful relationship cannot exist on games alone...but if this girl understood the book she would realize that the purpose is to overcome her bitch shield which she is obviously demonstrating.
Oh baby baby, how pretty and how wrong you are. :D

I'm too bored to make another long ass post with bullet points, you should send me your AIM SN so I can explain to you exactly what game is.

Author:  Bonita [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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Oh baby baby, how pretty and how wrong you are. :D
Neg
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I'm too bored to make another long ass post with bullet points, you should send me your AIM SN so I can explain to you exactly what game is.
And attempt to #close me...or in this case AIM close me?? lol


It isn't my first day on this forum...although if I was new I would prob wouldn't recognize what you were doing.

I was born at night, but not last night fella's...very cute try though :)

Author:  Paramour [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:20 pm ]
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Aww, now Roads...I thought I was the only one that you called baby. I leave for a bit and you already jumpin on another..tsk tsk........ :wink:


Quit negging the poor girl, I think you should go with a more natural approach or use you sexual frame, I'm just trying to help you out Roads..ya know I aint got nothin but luv for ya.

Author:  Bonita [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:42 pm ]
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No matter what you do, the girls on this forum always accuse others of gaming them. Perhaps he just wanted to point things out?
I'm not conceited in any fashion, I was just calling the shots as a I see them! haha Pointing things out....perhaps....I doubt but let's see how he responds :)

He seems pretty popular...all you guys want him (DHV??) lol
You guys crack me up...I'm glad you guys aren't afraid to call me out on stuff though...I can handle myself :)

Author:  Marco Polo [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:50 pm ]
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Don't worry about Roads.. he is all mine ;-)

@Original Poster
This is why your a 3rd generation PUA. As such, you should be more focused on creating an attractive lifestyle that women want to be a part of. When you have an attractive lifestyle, the women come to you. You won't have to demonstrate higher value, you will BE higher value.
Miner digression - I would say you described 1st, original generation of PUA`s who were here long before community even start its existance - The natural PUA. :wink:

Author:  Zip [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:24 pm ]
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Don't worry about Roads.. he is all mine ;-)
we all know furry feet are the key to Roads' heart.
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@Original Poster
This is why your a 3rd generation PUA. As such, you should be more focused on creating an attractive lifestyle that women want to be a part of. When you have an attractive lifestyle, the women come to you. You won't have to demonstrate higher value, you will BE higher value.
YES YES YES. yes. Absolutely.

Author:  Zip [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:30 pm ]
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Miner digression - I would say you described 1st, original generation of PUA`s who were here long before community even start its existance - The natural PUA. :wink:
It's generally agreed that naturals have been around since the dawn of time. That's why they are called naturals and not PUAs. The two are mutually exclusive. One is not better than the other, IMO.

1st generation PUAs- Ross Jeffries gen. NLP. Speed Seduction. "If you don't get laid, I don't get paid!" Playing with linguistics self-centric seduction.

2nd gen PUAs- Mystery. Style. David D. Steve Piccus, to an extent. Routines, evolutionary theory. C&F. Playing with social dynamics and communal seduction.

3rd gen PUAs- All the new guys. Sinn (the new Sinn, not the MM Sinn.) Adam Lyons. Us. It's about creating a lifestyle that attracts not only women TO us, but good karma. The "spiritual" generation. It's about money, relationships, sex, power, giving, value, health, mental prowess. Playing with cosmic dynamic and social intervention.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:09 pm ]
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I think everyone just agreed on the exact same thing, but phrased it in a different way...

The girl in the original post made some excellent points, unfortunately they are all based upon how SHE percieved the book and is closed to percieving it in a way that could inspire people in a positive manner. If you show her how everything she said is exactly how guys that aren't extremists (such as Style, Mystery and most of the characters in the book The Game and Style pretty much admits that when he talks about just how much it consumed his life), think then you will get her to change how she feels about it. She's right, you're right, now just realise that she is right and show her that you're right.

Bonita, is right about a lot of things as well and Hobbit and Zip basically said the same thing in different ways.

Now Roads, stop trying to get some cybersex! :P

Author:  BeautyAnon [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:18 pm ]
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Building character and creating good Karma...that's a very good thing!

I like this thread and the views here. I think my issue may not be so much with this site per se, but with a specific person.

This gives me hope!

Author:  Roads [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:19 am ]
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One at a time guys and gals, Roads may be the filet mignon of PUA goodness, but as erudite connoisseurs of prime cuts I am sure all of you know that such a delicacy cannot be fought over tooth and nail without risking injury to the beef.

Welcome back to the forum Par. :)

Bonita, I really was offering to explain to you what the pickup game is. A cursory glance may tell you only the superficial aspects of it, leading you to believe it's a magic shortcut to dropping drawers and panties. That's like some PUAF member looking at a female member's avatar and deciding he's going to cyber with her...completely superficial :P. As most of my beloved friends in this thread will tell you, I'm only partially superficial. So it's an open invitation, I'm in the PUA Chat shooting the breeze sometimes and if you want to talk for a bit about PUA, let me know. I'll tell you the when and how.

I hope you have furry feet.

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