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Author:  Chief [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  The Role of Money in Pickup

This is something that my friend and fellow New Orleans lair leader, Stormy, wrote that I thought was insightful:

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The Role of Money in Pickup

Preview: virtually nil.

A looooooooooooong time ago, when I first met youse guys at
Starbuck's, Chief presented an opinion opener involving an article he
read about women finding a guy who was ABOUT to get fifty million
dollars sexier than a guy who already HAD fifty million dollars. Some
theories as to why this was the case were offered (and Frigid opened a
nearby set with it), but the results were ultimately inconclusive.

Some doctrine (Blueprint) states that money has precisely jack shit to
do with how attractive you are. The number of "starving artist"
naturals attests to this. But some information I ran across recently
can perhaps shed a bit more light on this subject.

The human sex drive finished its evolution a long time ago. The last
changes of any kind were during the Pleistocene era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocen ... leistocene

During that time, humans wandered around in hunter-gatherer bands.
Guys would go out and spear animals, girls would gather fruits and
nuts and stuff. And it was practically impossible to accumulate
wealth. Your personal property consisted of whatever you could carry,
and food was shared and eaten immediately because there was no way to
preserve it.

Furs? Elaborate worn status symbols? Not yet. Humans didn't start
wearing clothing until at least a hundred thousand years ago, and at
the most, half a million years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... ric_develo\
pment

So imagine a world where it isn't possible to accumulate wealth, and
therefore where accumulated wealth is irrelevant to how attractive a
male is. What is attraction based on? Social status, mostly. How does
a guy acquire social status? By being a good hunter and bringing back
lots of meat for his tribe. And by outmaneuvering other guys in power
struggles, too. Be a good hunter -> get props, which could -> become
leader of tribe.

So when the human sex drive stopped evolving, women weren't attracted
to accumulated wealth because it didn't exist. They were, however,
attracted to the ability to acquire wealth (in context, food in the
form of dead animal). That meant that women were attracted to the
personality traits that made a good hunter, including a balance of
patience and aggressiveness, fearlessness, decisiveness, et cetera. As
well as social proof for being a good hunter.

This is not to say that being rich won't get you laid, but then it's
not you that the girl is attracted to; it's your money. She'd be using
her vajayjay (or the promise thereof) as a means to get to your
monies. And like Blueprint pointed out, having money can instantly
pigeonhole you into the role of provider-chode, which is a crappy
place to be. And nobody likes golddiggers.

So what does money have to do with anything? In short, very little.
You need money to get to a club, get into a club, and have a place to
do the sex. Aside from that, though, having money won't do you any
good. You just have to demonstrate through your personality that you'd
make a good hunter a couple hundred thousand years ago. Winning a
poker tournament will likely make you sexier than cashing a dividend
check.
"
- Stormy

EDIT: I emphasized the author with larger font so people wouldn't mistakenly credit me for this post.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:44 pm ]
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Yeah, a guy that shows the qualities of a hard worker that can go out and earn money, even at a crappy job that doesn't pay much, is much more attractive than a guy that has a trust fund and has no work ethics or drive.

Author:  madals [ Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:52 pm ]
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hmmmm, but money is used now to buy food. More money nicer food. Better food better health. Better health = more saftey value.

Refer back to caveman terms. Better hunter more food. more food more to eat. More to eat strong the people get. Stronger they get more Saftey and chance for offspring to survive therefore more reproduction value.

Ok bad example, food isnt an issue for the majority of the western world, and if it is an issue for you then tbh women arnt gonna be high on ur list of priorities. But money still plays a part imo.
Who has money, the lucky or the powerful.
Power = alpha (look at most CEO's and rich men.)
Money in the western world is given to those who achive. The sucessful. People dont find money they normally earn it, and to earn it they much be good at something. A skill is attractive, it shows u are a leader you are the best. Just as having a hot GF makes all your friends envious women who got bought that new prada dress this weekend by their rich BF's make their friends jealous. Therefore raising the social value.

Money also makes things like dressing well, and looking good easier. It also offers saftey, a women would not be comfortable with a guy who cannot support a family, normally. Just as you would worry if u can afford the rent, if you are living with some1 you wouldnt want to worry if they could afford it.

However, money i think is a lot like looks. As long as your not compleatly lacking, you'll get by. However, having it will only be an asset in most cases.

Thats my opinion anyway. Good post tho chief.

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