thanks for all the responses! i'm still callibrating but have already improved!
I love this game!
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| Author: | pablo_picasso [ Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | stuck in the process - WHEN/ HOW TO STOP NEGGING? |
I have always been into the cocky and funny/ teasing attitudes while meeting girls, however I should thank “The Game” and the community in general for making me aware of its full potential (specially while properly mixed with some negging). The problem is I seem to get lost somewhere in the process. I have a great sense of humor and can make girls laugh (not all types, however) right after they met me. Today, for instance I was sitting in a table with a set of 3 I had just met, and after a small while I had them laughing at each other while being in total control of the conversation. Had this situation taken place at a club I would very probably have been able to at least kiss-close one of them due to the environment and the way things seem to flow in clubs. However it took place in college during a break. The next time I’ll see the one I was interested in (a HB9) I’ll have plenty of subject to tease her and neg her about. I might also be able to introduce some chick crack to the game as well, still my game will probably be stuck somewhere around that…what to do after the teasing? WHEN TO STOP THE NEGGING and make an open move towards her (if I should so so?) Which steps to take? Please notice that my natural response would be to become cocky and dirty, however some girls tend to, even if displaying attraction, rebuild their shields, so it's rather a gamble than a scientific method... any good advices? *All PUAs please read my other post for a specific situation Thanks |
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| Author: | Methuselah [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:53 am ] |
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breakdown. mystery calls the initial three phases of a meet A1,A2,A3 A1- is your first few minutes as you open to the target/group A2- is deemed female-to-male interest, where your are throwing negs and DHV's to the group to lower her value and make her be appealed to you instead of the usual other way around. a general rule of thumb to progress to the next phase and stop the negging is when you get three i.o.is from her. A3- is deemed male-to-female interest where in turn after she has indicated great interest in you, you may reward her with a compliment, try to stay from her beauty, go more with a characteristic. no negs in this phase, this is where you bring all the guns out and progress to the C phases (communication, comfort, connection). this may sound quite methodical but they way that mystery breaks down the social interaction into phases its extremely easy to then be able to analyze situation, even when you are completely in it yourself. if you wanna learn more on his breakdown of the phases and his detailed advice i can hook you up with the venusian arts handbook. your situation sounds like mine back in my later years of highschool, i had the attitude and the undeveloped skills. once i began to read and practice these methods it came so easily. let me know. |
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| Author: | CaptainAmazing [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:03 am ] |
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i have been having a similar problem thanks alot for your advice Methuselah |
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| Author: | smiles [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:13 pm ] |
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yeah ive been in similar situations, i neg well, basically be a smart ass, however i probably dont know how and when to read the signals as to go in for the kill i think sometiems i migth over do the smart ass thing and then come off as just a cheeky guy. im not sure how i can find the right mix.. your help would be great |
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| Author: | Methuselah [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:20 pm ] |
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smiles, when your negging be aware for her indications of interest in you. once you throw a couple of negs her way then her value will be lowered and in turn she will look at you as having higher value, and want your attention. so she will do a variety of things with her body posture, physical actions, statements made by her, among others. be aware for them and when you get three indications she is interested in you, then it usually means its time to give her some attention coming from your direction. examples that shes interested in you: she asks your name she touches you giggling stands close to you even when your not talking to her she asks how old you are smiles at you makes eye contact and maintains it playing with her hair if you stop conversation with her and she continues to talk her being talkative overall laughing at everything you say, regardless if its funny or not a compliment towards you following you if you walk somewhere new asking many questions about you there are shitloads of other things that she will do to show that she approves of you and doesn't look at you as the "normal guy" whom she so readily will blow off. at this point, chill with the negs (you might still want to throw one or two in later but its up to the situation and what you think about it) and continue to talk to her and get to somewhere where you can isolate her and get down to building comfort with her through communication, kino, blah blah blah the rest. |
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| Author: | smiles [ Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:31 pm ] |
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cheers thanks for your input awesome tips heading out sarging tonight!! wish me luck |
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| Author: | M [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:12 am ] |
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Hi Pablo, I generally only neg girls who think they're the bomb to bring 'em back down to earth. And I usually start negging them when they start working with me instead of against me. But yeah, negs should be used primarily in the attraction phase. In the comfort phase, you should use freeze-outs more than negs (as per Mystery). And I usually use kino escalation to take things to the next level. Hope this helps, Respectfully, M |
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| Author: | MissSelfdestruct [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:37 pm ] |
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lolol mates where were you all those times I over"negged" girls! XD haha I'm used to calling people names and being called names in return.. and it's just the way I like to interact with people and have fun however untill now I realize how many girls I have overnegged to the point it affected them, or their self esteem or sth! XD XD Nice piece of advice |
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| Author: | pablo_picasso [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:48 pm ] |
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thanks for all the responses! i'm still callibrating but have already improved! I love this game!
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