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Author:  Soniq2 [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Groups and leaders

So one thing I've noticed is when girls are in a group there is typically a leader and one thing that seems to work incredibly to get either the leader or anyone else in the group to be more suggestible is to take down the leader using negs by lowering the status of the leader you can then lower the whole group so they have to try kiss up to you to earn your respect

Author:  JackZero [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

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So one thing I've noticed is when girls are in a group there is typically a leader and one thing that seems to work incredibly to get either the leader or anyone else in the group to be more suggestible is to take down the leader using negs by lowering the status of the leader you can then lower the whole group so they have to try kiss up to you to earn your respect
Example please.

Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

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So one thing I've noticed is when girls are in a group there is typically a leader and one thing that seems to work incredibly to get either the leader or anyone else in the group to be more suggestible is to take down the leader using negs by lowering the status of the leader you can then lower the whole group so they have to try kiss up to you to earn your respect
You're overthinking shit immensely.

If you are busy trying to lower everyone else's value you're assuming their value is above yours... kinda a horrible mindset.

Also there is leaders in every group Male, Female, Co, don't matter.

Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

All that matters is that you march at the beat of your own drum

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:18 pm ]
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If you after their Queen the Drones will savagely attack you.

Author:  R.C [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:35 pm ]
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Also there is leaders in every group Male, Female, Co, don't matter.
This.

This doesn't necessarily refer to pickup, but if you want to be liked by a group you should aim to befriend the leader, not punch the biggest guy in the yard.

This is not the prison yard, and even if it were that'd still probably get you killed.

Author:  puaninja [ Mon May 01, 2017 2:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

It's a strategy, yes. Sometimes you need to use a few negs or freeze out the alpha to disrupt their control of the group dynamic.

Author:  JackZero [ Mon May 01, 2017 2:35 am ]
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It's a strategy, yes. Sometimes you need to use a few negs or freeze out the alpha to disrupt their control of the group dynamic.
Example please.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Mon May 01, 2017 3:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

Negs on other alphas in group environment are a waste of time. If you follow a great fitness program, your body will speak for you.

What are you doing talking to men if your goal is seducing a woman?

Author:  R.C [ Tue May 02, 2017 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

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Negs on other alphas in group environment are a waste of time. If you follow a great fitness program, your body will speak for you.

What are you doing talking to men if your goal is seducing a woman?
Arch, how about you give an example of a great fitness program?

Author:  DJ_Z [ Tue May 02, 2017 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

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Negs on other alphas in group environment are a waste of time. If you follow a great fitness program, your body will speak for you.

What are you doing talking to men if your goal is seducing a woman?
except to the people who don't give a fuck how big your arms are. Seriously this reads like some high school nonsense.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Tue May 02, 2017 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

It goes well beyond high school nonsense. It's simply science. Raw, primal natre overrides all.

Guys may not give a fuck how big a guys arms are, but women do. They melt over it. And if you're pulling the hottest women in the group, youre the alpha, not the guy who talks a lot and spends his time trying to charm everyone.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Tue May 02, 2017 6:58 pm ]
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It goes well beyond high school nonsense. It's simply science. Raw, primal natre overrides all.

Guys may not give a fuck how big a guys arms are, but women do. They melt over it. And if you're pulling the hottest women in the group, youre the alpha, not the guy who talks a lot and spends his time trying to charm everyone.
Wrong. Starting to see what jacks deal was...

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Tue May 02, 2017 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

Science is a wonderful tool.

Studies show muscles increase first night hook ups by 30 to 40 percent.they have an effect on new women, and thus group dynamics....

Without speaking a word.

Author:  JackZero [ Tue May 02, 2017 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Groups and leaders

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It goes well beyond high school nonsense. It's simply science. Raw, primal natre overrides all.

Guys may not give a fuck how big a guys arms are, but women do. They melt over it. And if you're pulling the hottest women in the group, youre the alpha, not the guy who talks a lot and spends his time trying to charm everyone.
It's an attribute. At most, it's a focal point of where attraction can begin. If it's all that women want then male strippers and guys that live in the gym would be the guys in demand, but they're not. Women's desires are variable at any given moment and they'll choose their best options based on that variable.

I wish Dragula were able to post and he'd tell you about the time he pulled the hot girl from the pro athlete. A guy that had top fitness and money.

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