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Author:  backIntheGame91 [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  What went wrong with this model?

I got a model's number( a big deal for me) after talking to her online (and verified she is real), waited a day to text, and then we bantered. At the end of the banter, I ask her out to dinner. She says "absolutely, my schedule is flexible." So I say, how about Thursday night at 7 (the day is currently Tuesday). She doesn't respond that night.

So the next day I text her in the afternoon "check yes or no. lol and then we can pick where to meet at". She says, hey sorry...just trying to see my schedule. how far are we from each other". I tell her google maps says about 40 minutes. She doesn't respond.

Later that week, we bantered and I asked her out, she doesn’t respond. This happened again the next week, after I waited a few more days.

I then wait 5 days, banter with her, and intentionally don’t ask her out.

2 days later, she asks "hey! so if you are still interested in meeting...can we? Also can we swap pics again?" She sends me a selfie, and I send her the most recent pic I have of me out with another girl. She asks if I'm single, and I tell her the girl in the picture is just a friend. She says "Ok :)". then I say alright lets say this Thursday at 7. I know a good place for us to grab food. No response.

I wait several days till Friday and say “Hey we should meet up this weekend what’s your schedule like?” She says “Hey… yes I would love to”. I say great let’s get coffee tomorrow afternoon. She says “I might have to work in the afternoon.” So I say to her “I have plans Saturday night, but Sunday afternoon at 2 would work.” no response.

Next day on Saturday- I send to her “So are we on for tomorrow?”. “Hey. Yea…this sounds lame… but i don’t do coffee. No offense. But thank you.” “I say, lol that is pretty lame. Since I like ya I suppose we could do lunch.” She says, “Well I apologize but lunch is pretty lame too.” “Hmm.. lets go ice skating then.” She says “I don’t know how *scared emoji* ”. I say “alright let’s do dinner at xyz location at 7. No response.

A few days later I send her “There’s a hilarious comedian coming out way this Thursday. Come be my date.” She says “Where and what time”. I say “7pm at xyz location. The guy was runner up in nbc’s last comic standing and I saw him 5 years ago.”
No response.

Andddd I’m done texting her I give up. Did I do something wrong? What would you have done differently?

Also, what does “I don’t do coffee or lunch mean?” She thinks she’s so hot that she has to be taken to dinner? Have you guys ever encountered this before?


EDIT: I see there's a whole thread on why coffee dates suck. I've had success on coffee dates and usually just try to go somewhere else the minute I tell that we like each other. I've never heard of women rejecting you because you asked them on a coffee date.

Author:  Finished [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:14 pm ]
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Have you ever even met her in person or is this all through online dating?

Author:  backIntheGame91 [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:20 pm ]
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Have you ever even met her in person or is this all through online dating?
Nah I met her online. I verified that she's a real model though and not a fake person.

Author:  JackZero [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:36 pm ]
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Why complain? Your original offer was for dinner, so you thought it must be okay. The thing I'm not sure about is if she is being genuine with you about actually wanting to go out. She's giving you excuses and delayed answers. Who is to say that if you put dinner back on the table that she won't flake?

Also, how do you verify that a person that you've never met is real?

Author:  Finished [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:43 pm ]
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Fair enough.

I'm not very experienced with online dating to be honest. I've never really needed it and all my pick ups have always started in the flesh. I've just made a profile on POF myself though just to see what it's all about, still unsure whether I actually want to put some effort into the whole thing to try to get more girls streamlined to myself and widen my horizons. In that case I'll actually ask you, which sites are you using?

My profile at the moment... I've sent out 6 messages with 2 replies in total. I just can't really be fucked meeting some girl who looks like she has DD titties in a picture only to find out shes small and fat in real life lol http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?pro ... =117350574

In relation to this particular incident. I would have to chuck out the strange analogy of girls being like fish. It's better to dangle the bait in front of them and wait for a small nibble before you start to reel them in. If you just dive straight in and make a huge splash in the water you will scare them away, and the more you try to chase, the further away they get. It's good to always keep this principle in mind when you're seducing girls.

The biggest mistake you're making is giving the decision to her. It's like you're trying to please her with the date ideas. When you asked her on the date just say you'll pick her up at x time or for her to meet you at x time at x place. Tell her how to dress for what you have planned. Then do the fucking date the way you want to.

Author:  neo87 [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:56 pm ]
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Unless you facetime, its impossible to know whether the girl you're talking to is actually the girl in the pictures. Ive seen many fakes who have entire facebooks with another girl's pictures. Also, so many girls post so much on social media, its easy for a girl to send a "selfie" that the real girl posted on her fb.

So, this girl could be a fake, or just a girl looking for attention online. Even if neither of those are the case, she's just not interested enough to meet. 40 minutes away sounds long imo, 1.5 hours back and forth...so I can see reluctance if she just doesnt want to get into dating someone that distance away. Regardless, all options just means she's wasting your time at this point. Thats the thing with online dating though, you'll never know whether its a chick you need to put in a bit more work for her to come out, or whether you're talking to a dude in Brazil fucking with you. Thats why its best imo to move on quickly if someone isnt meeting you.

Author:  Finished [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:03 pm ]
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Thats the thing with online dating though, you'll never know whether its a chick you need to put in a bit more work for her to come out, or whether you're talking to a dude in Brazil fucking with you.
That thought alone is enough to give me instant message anxiety.

Author:  backIntheGame91 [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:44 pm ]
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Why complain? Your original offer was for dinner, so you thought it must be okay. The thing I'm not sure about is if she is being genuine with you about actually wanting to go out. She's giving you excuses and delayed answers. Who is to say that if you put dinner back on the table that she won't flake?

Also, how do you verify that a person that you've never met is real?
I found her modeling page, which has the email she gave to me written on it. Through the phone number she gave me through that email account, I found her facebook. There's also a corresponding twitter and instagram account. I know, I know, I'm a creeper. Lots of pictures on each of those accounts. The pics that she sent me I couldn't find on any of those sites.

While not as effective as face time, everything adds up. I'd say it's unlikely she's a fake; I won't say it's impossible though.

Author:  backIntheGame91 [ Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:45 pm ]
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Natural_Dec, I like your fishing analogy. The site I met her on was OkCupid.

Author:  dicemaster [ Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:46 pm ]
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You chased and inisted so much OP, that is point. I believe she is real, by your validation she just get satisfied. Next time day aftet a flake, i find flake is lame and laugh. When she gives you excuses say, i do not believe you, if it is so, what do you offer for it? If she says my schedule is full then do nothing and go fishing.

Author:  Warped Mindless [ Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:24 pm ]
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She likes the attention. Forget about her.

Author:  hugge [ Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:00 pm ]
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OP, dicemaster already gave a pretty good answer, and I think you put too much effort into that girl. That's not what made her disinterested to begin with, but that's just wasting time. When a girl does that the normal response is to either be annoyed and just say "forget about it", or to pass the ball, like "ok, suggest something yourself" and never contact her again unless she contacts you first.

What made her disinterested you may ask? It's not possible to say from your story. But the internet is full of weirdos. She may be one of them.

Author:  TinderMagic [ Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:34 am ]
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You should have stopped after she didn't respond to the Sunday at 2pm coffee.
Yet you continued whilst she was just being nice saying that she doesn't do coffee. She's already gone at this point, let her go. She's not going to miraculously develop feeling via text. Also model's don't go on Plenty of Fish for dates, they go for the attention. Rookie mistake.

Author:  peiper [ Mon May 02, 2016 5:21 am ]
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As far as the WHOLE THING GOES, i'd say you care too much and its apparent in your messaging. To me, you come across as needy and trying to sell too hard. If the connection was stronger, and it could be made strong through messaging just fine, you guys would have met up.

The fact that you came into every interaction with the same mindset and approach and she dropped you each time should be telling. What you are presently doing is wrong. The models you are working under are incorrect or inadequate, they lack applicability.

EDIT: also, the model actually seems kind of confused herself. not particularly clear and consistent in her own intent. That being said, i don't think you clear things up for her.

Author:  FlexBrah [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:14 pm ]
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I stopped reading at coffee as well.

You did a horrible job at closing the date. If she says she's busy, then you say "Well when are you free this week". She will either give you days and times when she is free and you then you set a DEFINITE date on the spot.

If she gives you some BS and says "Ohh I'm not sure what my schedule is like this week" YOU DON'T keep texting her and suggesting other days and times. You PULL AWAY! You say "Well get in touch with me when you figure your schedule out"

And if she never gets in touch with you then you never will hear from her again. Think about it -- Why would you waste your time on girls who don't seem that interested! Your time is valuable and you want to spend it with females with high interest! It makes everything much easier and more enjoyable!

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