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| Author: | Element [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Philisophical Jabber... Preconditioning, etc. |
Straight to the point. We can all agree that the problem with men today is that, since around the 60's, We've been preconditioned by the media that our masculinity is frowned upon. Our sexual urges, strong male ego, and masculine aggresiveness, is wrong. We've been preconditioned to dub down our sexuality, to turn the other cheek in the face of aggression, tobe submissive. Basically to stop acting like a man, and just "be nice". This is why so many men have been failing with women. Because we've been pre-conditioned to be big wusses. We all agree on this, correct? If so, then what about women? How come they haven't been preconditioned by mom, dad, and media? Or if they have, how so? They've seen the same stuff we have over the last 40 years. How come women prefer what they do? Does anybody have any theories about this? |
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| Author: | Slai [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:21 pm ] |
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Who says they havent? Disney, commercials, everything is saying "men are chumps, men are chumps, men are chumps" so shes thinking "yeah they must be", which leads into "well i wouldnt want a chump" which then goes into her little paradox of wanting the "bad boy rebel alpha" and at the same time wanting the comfort of the "nice guy", perhaps Then theres the evolutionary take on it, which would claim that women just are choosers, men are up for grabs. Why would she bother with someone she deems below her standards? Sure, men are conditioned to believe such and such. But isnt that just like an evolutionary obstacle to weed the survivors from the extinct? When the first mammals entered into a cold climate, the furry ones were the best shot for having living offspring, so they mated more than their rivals who had no fur. Maybe this conditioning is natures shit-test. To see if we'll pass and be worthy. idunno, these are just the ramblings of an uneducated guesser. |
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| Author: | DrunkOnCapeCod [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:34 pm ] |
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My take on it is society and their parents have put women in the dominant position as the "prize". Meaning men have to in a sense throw themselves and their self respect at women in order to get anywhere with them. Most guys who tend to do this are subject to being stuck as being a friend and they listen as the girl complains about her asshole boyfriend. However is this guy actually an asshole? I mean he got this beautiful girl that you would do anything for yet you are going no where. Why is this? Because SHE KNOWS you would do anything for her. Getting her bf to do something is far more rewarding than you just offering up to drop your plans and do anything at the hopes of some form of intimacy. She can see right through your needeness. Guys have to build up their own prizeability against the females and in turn make themselves be the one who is getting pursued rather than the girl. If you can turn the page on the girl, she will be begging for you to come to her. Give a women something she thinks she cant have, and she will instantly want it. Of course you must build attraction and comfort before hand. Once there IMO take it away, but not completley. Treat her as the "friend" |
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