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| Author: | JackZero [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Is this good Pick Up? |
Quote: If a girl can't tell whether you want to befriend, marry or fuck her, then you're not doing it right. This is what was posted by someone in a different thread and made me wonder is this what some guys really believe? In my opinion this is making it a seller's market when it comes to seduction and gives the woman the option of saying, "If you want this, you'll need to give me this." Ultimately, it seems that this mentality takes away from the seducer being the prize and instead being rewarded. Maybe I'm wrong...thoughts?
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| Author: | Spacevolt [ Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
i think thats in matter of your intent with the girl. a girl will assume you want to fuck her regardless, specially if you are approaching her so at any given time a girl feel one of those ways. if you are too friendly she will assume you just are being social and trying to befriend her. but if you are acting to creepy she will probably assume you just want to fuck her. i don't think any girl thinks you want to marry her right away. |
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| Author: | hugge [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
It depends on what results you want. RSD Tyler & Julien say "be clear in your intent", agreeing with that quote. But remember, all they want is to get laid, ONS, and then move on to the next girl. If you want to have a more serious relationship with a girl, you need a different approach. First you need to be the buyer, which means that you don't really know what you want from her, thus you need to screen her. As long as you are playful and have fun with the girl, you don't need to have any intentions at all. Just show her that you like her and enjoy your time with her. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
Quote: i think thats in matter of your intent with the girl.
Quote: It depends on what results you want. RSD Tyler & Julien say "be clear in your intent", agreeing with that quote. But remember, all they want is to get laid, ONS, and then move on to the next girl. So what both of you are basically saying is that you should express your intent if your intention is only sex.I guess the way I express intent is to let them know that I have no intention of being just friends. I suppose that my mentality of not making a decision about a girl until after sex plays into that. So if I end up having an ONS, I probably didn't decide on that until the next day. |
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| Author: | fudge_88 [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
Quote: Quote: i think thats in matter of your intent with the girl.
Quote: It depends on what results you want. RSD Tyler & Julien say "be clear in your intent", agreeing with that quote. But remember, all they want is to get laid, ONS, and then move on to the next girl. So what both of you are basically saying is that you should express your intent if your intention is only sex.I guess the way I express intent is to let them know that I have no intention of being just friends. I suppose that my mentality of not making a decision about a girl until after sex plays into that. So if I end up having an ONS, I probably didn't decide on that until the next day. I don't know jack, the way I interpreted that is that within yourself you should be clear with the intent that ou are moving with the girl. That way your actions stay congruent with the intent that you hold, and you don't stray and violate your intentions when involved with her. Vin Dicarlo talks about intent when in his attraction code. The way he teaches is to have actions that show transparent intent. In practice I don't follow this 100% Like a girl will know I want to fuck her, but she won't know if I want to fuck and leave or fuck and befriend her, or fuck and form a relationship with her. She knows that the intent to fuck is there though so it's no surprise when I go for it. I don't expressly state my intent. It's shown through actions, vibes, tonality, and body language. Also, I practice calibrated game. So my intent is not known at the beginning with all women. Some women like direct approaches where you show you pick them out of a crowd, others like indirect approaches where they are unsure of the interaction and chase you. This is why there is so much confusion in the community. Guys try to cookie cutter women as a whole, but your can't do that. That's just another form of prejudice. You'll see a method work well with one girl and completely fall on it's face with another. Even if they are both available. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
Quote: Like a girl will know I want to fuck her, but she won't know if I want to fuck and leave or fuck and befriend her, or fuck and form a relationship with her. This is basically what I'm saying. The strength behind it is that she doesn't know where she stands with you which keeps her off balance and in a constant qualification mode. If you tell a girl straight up that you want to fuck, her vagina ends up having some authority. Yes, you can say that if she tries to display that authority you can just walk away and find another girl but you'd still be the one that created that condition. That's why I laugh at guys who say pick up is a numbers game, when its an easier game if you play it with finesse. I feel that if a girl has more than a 5 minute conversation with me after I've approached her, she is basically going to have sex with me as long as I don't fuck it up. It reminds me of this thing my dad said years ago: Two bulls were sitting on a hill looking down on some cows in the field and the young bull said, "Let's run down there and fuck one of those cows". The old bull said, " No, let's walk down there and fuck them all." If a guy can't understand the wisdom behind this, he probably is better off playing a numbers game and taking the approach of verbalizing the "I'm just going to fuck you" intention. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is this good Pick Up? |
Quote: Quote: If a girl can't tell whether you want to befriend, marry or fuck her, then you're not doing it right.
Huh. . . this is so vague and the debate is really in the linguistics. On a very basic level, I suppose I agree with the OP.It came from a conversation where the poster said that if you express intent properly a girl is going to want to have sex with you if she finds you attractive. I believe that the statement in itself is true, but something about how this guy used it made me think he was just talking out of his ass, so I asked that he explain how expresses his intent. I want you to realize that this is a scenario about a girl that he's just met and he states that he tells her how sexy she is, puts her hand on his dick, and then blames it on her because she is sexy. Then he justifies that it works because he is an attractive man. I say that maybe this could be successful, but normal success will never happen. I guess my issue is that there are all of these guys out there that teach this scorched earth type of seduction systems that amplify directness to the point of where the technique is actually speed rejection so you can move onto the next girl and eventually get a yes. Guys desperately want to learn seduction without having to develop themselves and, IMO, this must seem like a very attractive option because there is a logic to it. They buy into some of them so much that I constantly read that xyz company teaches this and they'll endorse it xyz, but it's very rare that they'll say that xyz's system works for them. |
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