wait, there is proof that it is fake?

For those not aware, Tom Terrero was recently caught paying an actress to fake a daytime kiss on the street for daygame.com's Date Against the Machine program.

Tom and everyone on the staff swore, that it was all %100 Tom, and it was the only time he ever did it.
Problem? The cameraman knew, and apparently, so did Andy Yosha. Someone leaked a video, of Tom talking to her(in front of the cameraman), about daygame.com being interested in hiring some of her friends for other videos.

My favorite bit of this? Yad(the only decent instructor with DG.com) just admitted to students at a bootcamp that the spam approach method they suggest isn't even what he uses. He walks, stands or sits around, and makes eye contact with every approaching woman, and only after he gets positive approach signals, chases after her gets in front of her, extends his arm and does the whole "Excuse me. I'm really sorry, but can I just tell you something really quickly [..] I just saw you over there and thought you looked really nice" routine.

Which is the exact opposite of what they preach(which is, approach whatever girl you think is most attractive, and pay no mind to a lack of signals from her).

So, what do you think daygame.com's chance of salvaging its relevance is? I'd say it's low. Very low. At this point, it's well documented that much of their best stuff is fake, the person running it(Andy) was the one organizing the fake videos and their best instructor(Yad) doesn't even select which women to approach the way they suggest in their own programs.

I think they will be fine. When Tom was ousted for hiring actors I went over to their forum and was shocked to see that nearly all of the posters were defending him. "Brainwashed cult members" came to mind.

Tom posted a confession on his site.

I think they will be fine. When Tom was ousted for hiring actors I went over to their forum and was shocked to see that nearly all of the posters were defending him. "Brainwashed cult members" came to mind.

I think the people on the forum are not the best representation of their typical customer. These are mostly their biggest fans. I would expect that most of them would defend Tom.
I think it hurts much more with everyone outside of the inner group.

For instance, people come here and ask for product advice. Would I ever consider pointing them in daygame.com's direction after this? No. And I doubt many other people aware of this, would. I wouldn't use a daygame.com video as an example of anything.

And it can hurt their ability to get future customers. All of their youtube videos are going to have comments about the verified fake videos on them. This will deter people from buying things from them, or sharing the videos they see.

People inside of the cult slowly leave. Either through disappointment, or eventual success. They rely on most of their long term customers being single. When one gets a girlfriend, he stops paying for bootcamps. He may also just give up. They need to replace people, and I think this makes it a lot harder.

I think the people on the forum are not the best representation of their typical customer. These are mostly their biggest fans. I would expect that most of them would defend Tom.
I think it hurts much more with everyone outside of the inner group.

For instance, people come here and ask for product advice. Would I ever consider pointing them in daygame.com's direction after this? No. And I doubt many other people aware of this, would. I wouldn't use a daygame.com video as an example of anything.

And it can hurt their ability to get future customers. All of their youtube videos are going to have comments about the verified fake videos on them. This will deter people from buying things from them, or sharing the videos they see.

People inside of the cult slowly leave. Either through disappointment, or eventual success. They rely on most of their long term customers being single. When one gets a girlfriend, he stops paying for bootcamps. He may also just give up. They need to replace people, and I think this makes it a lot harder.

All very good points. It will be an interesting few months ahead for that company.

My favorite bit of this? Yad(the only decent instructor with DG.com) just admitted to students at a bootcamp that the spam approach method they suggest isn't even what he uses. He walks, stands or sits around, and makes eye contact with every approaching woman, and only after he gets positive approach signals, chases after her gets in front of her, extends his arm and does the whole "Excuse me. I'm really sorry, but can I just tell you something really quickly [..] I just saw you over there and thought you looked really nice" routine.