Looks don't matter as much as most guys think, but they count. It's a factor in attraction.

Men judge women MOSTLY by looks, but women judge men much more heuristically. So, even if you're ugly, you can still attract assloads of women if you're charming or if you have good game.

Also, no matter how ugly you are, it's something you can work on, too.

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That's an older picture of Gambler/Richard La Ruina.

Gambler is a good example of how a guy can max out his looks. I'd like to point out that he didn't look like that pic you posted when he was getting laid tho

When it comes to looks, I perfer guys don't think of their genetics as absolutes but rather as a starting point. If a guy puts in the work, almost any guy can become at least average. Many will become good looking.

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I personally would fuck, most of those coaches exclusively based on their looks, if i was looking for one night stand, i wouldnt care at all how smart they r, how interesting etc, just that they look good, If they look good enough, it would be enough for one night stand..
In my opinion some of those MPUAS wouldnt get laid that much if they hadn't have the looks as they have.

TBH, most of guys on that list is either hot, either average looking, with few rare exceptions.

Looks are way easier to max out than skills though. 100 hours in the gym and 100 in the club over the course of a year will do more for your success with women than 500 hours in the club. You can get your skin cleared up in about 6 months/year for $100-1,000 at most. You can fix your wardrobe for about $400 if you buy a sewing machine and spend a few hours fixing your crap, or about $1,000 if you want to use a tailor.

And another thing I've tried pointing out is that looks vary a lot in importance depending on where you fall. If a girl finds you physically repulsive, it does not matter what you do. You are sunk. Period.

Skills matter the absolute most for sort of nice looking guys. A guy who is a 6 may be able to consistently get 8+s(which includes 9s/10s). A guy who is a 5 is nearly hard capped at 7 and he'll be fighting tooth and nail to get an 8. A 4? That guy is not making it over a 6 and again, it's going to be an epic struggle to pull off. And once you become an 8, more looks don't help much.

An 8 guy with good skills is going to destroy a 10 guy with basic social skills. But a 4 with great skills is going to consistently lose to a 6 with basic social skills.

In essence, bad looks are nearly a killer. Average looks are a serious(yet overcomable) handicap for getting hot girls. Once you're objectively "hot", how hot barely matters at all.

If a girl finds you physically repulsive, it does not matter what you do. You are sunk. Period.

What is attractive is almost entirely subjective from person to person.

Lol, no.
I know fat people like to say this over and over, but there's actually very little in the way of subjectivity to looks.

There may not be an archetype that works for %99, but there are oodles of combos that can ensure %99+ of attractive women will rule you out.

There is one singular truth that most guys in PUA will never admit. Looks are the single most important factor in whether a woman will be attracted to you or not. And if you're too fat/ugly/old for her, no amount of "value" or "game" is going to overcome it.

I agree with the concept of telling men that much of their physical attractiveness is fixable. I'm not one of the PUAHate guys who thinks you need to be an Adonis in order to attract women. But I don't like the opposite, where guys are set up with false expectations. The community has vastly overpreached "looks don't matter". I try to make the point that they do matter - a lot. And that you should be investing at least as much time and effort in your appearance as in your social development when you first start out.