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Author:  sugarwallz616 [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  I think i may have cheated the game.

So today i met up with an old teacher of mine that i used to have in high school who is a hypnotist. Part of the reason we meet up is so that i can learn hypno AND so i can personally be hypnotized

So today i got hypnotized to have no "Approach Anxiety" whatsoever, and today i approach just about every available female i saw.

Now my concern is just technique, I can always start the chess game, i just need to learn how to end the game.

Author:  GamesSN [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:27 am ]
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Hate to break it to you but hypnotism is a load of waffle. Think of your cure as a Placebo Effect. You thought you were taking something to "cure" you so you believed you were cured.

Never underestimate the power of suggestion~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4w06yLx4Uc Not very scientific but it speaks volumes.

Author:  sugarwallz616 [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:14 pm ]
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The results speak for itself

I've seen people lose a lot of weight, i've seen people quit smoking, AND i've seen changes in myself

Placebo? well it's better than those that other poison you might be putting in your body.

Author:  GamesSN [ Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:25 pm ]
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As I said it's all a bunch of bullshit.

It's not the actual "hypnosis" that's working for you but the belief that you've been "cured."

http://psychology.about.com/od/pindex/f ... effect.htm
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In short, a placebo is a fake SPAM that in some cases can produce a very real response. The expectations of the patient play an important role in the placebo effect; the more a person expects the SPAM to work, the more likely they are to exhibit a placebo response.
Placebo Effect is not exclusive to the form of pills or drugs. It's purely psychological.

But hey, if it's working for you then fine. It's not as if approaching women is harmful to you but should you choose to pursue hypnotism for more serious medical or psychological problems that's where the line must be drawn.

Author:  sugarwallz616 [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:32 am ]
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I myself am a hypnotist of some skill, I've seen the effects it has on people; Placebo or not i'm a believer and I want to use it to help people. (Also it's great for Pick-Up)

Author:  Dragula [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:49 am ]
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After one sarge...You think it will cure your AA forever...??

Sometimes I had a good sarge and I would think it's the new opener I was using or something..

Try again next night and it's the opposite , there is a bit more to it all. Could be a placebo could be legit but no way to find out for sure since the brain is so complex. Maybe a combo

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:51 am ]
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Sometimes I had a good sarge and I would think it's the new opener I was using or something..

Try again next night and it's the opposite , there is a bit more to it all.
Quoted for truth.

Just awhile ago, my sarges sucked. It's not always smooth with techniques that you think are tried and tested or scientific.

Author:  jeffyp [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:37 pm ]
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GamesSN, although it's true that hypnosis is nothing more than a placebo, you're destroying its effect on OP if you manage to convince him/her.

It's a bit like how guys that are new to pick up take coaching for a placebo. They think that, because they've been coached, they must be better at pick up. They then exhibit more confidence, approach more people, and get more lays.

Author:  GamesSN [ Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:42 pm ]
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GamesSN, although it's true that hypnosis is nothing more than a placebo, you're destroying its effect on OP if you manage to convince him/her.

It's a bit like how guys that are new to pick up take coaching for a placebo. They think that, because they've been coached, they must be better at pick up. They then exhibit more confidence, approach more people, and get more lays.
Ehm, no... People go to coaching to learn not for the confidence. They go to be shown how exactly to game a girl. There's no placebo effect involved here given it's all about learning. Hypnosis isn't about learning anything and using your newly acquired skill set. It's just a bunch of rubbish.

Author:  jeffyp [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:36 pm ]
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There's no rule book to picking up so there's no concrete way to 'learn'.

Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:43 pm ]
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OP has clearly never read the story of the "Emperor's New Clothes"

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:34 pm ]
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There's no rule book to picking up so there's no concrete way to 'learn'.

Everyone has different things that work for them. If you think that hypnosis or coaching just gives a "placebo" effect, it probably wouldn't help you.

Hypnosis may sound like a bunch of foo foo, weirdo shit... But the idea behind "learning pick up" is to rewire your brain. And that's what hypnosis is designed to do.... Rewire your brain. The fact that he was open to try being hypnotized realizing that there is some possibility that it will help is probably the reason it worked for him.

The fact that you say "coaching" just gives a placebo effect tells me one of two things...

1. You paid for coaching and it didn't work for you (either you had a bad coach or you weren't doing what you were told) so now you feel like you got "burned."

2. You've never actually tried it and you're not that serious about getting good. You just dabble.

The best athletes in the world have personal trainers. What makes you think you're so special that you don't need a coach? I coach and I STILL pay for other people to coach me... Why? Because it's worth it to me to learn something new if I can.

Here's what I've found is beneficial from paying for coaching...

1. You get instant feedback. You get mistakes with body language, tonality, mindset, nervous ticks... All stuff you wouldn't see or learn on your own for months or even years, corrected right then and there. You learn new things and can try them on the spot and get them down with someone there helping you. You have someone to keep you motivated... blow out after blow out so you don't wind up in the corner by yourself, sitting on your phone, waiting for the bar to close. A good coach will make sure you're always improving.

2. You're more serious about it. Think about it man... I charge people $6000 for coaching. Why? Not because I'm greedy. But because I want to know people aren't wasting my fucking time.

Think about if you made a huge financial commitment like that... Like college for example.

People pay what? 200k in tuition and what not to go to college to get a degree because they commit to something. After you get that degree... You do what you've gotta do to find a job in that field. You're committed.(I'm not an advocator of going to college because mommy and daddy told you that's what you've gotta do... If you want to learn, that's different.)

So if someone pays a few thousand dollars or more to have someone teach/coach/mentor them in pick up... What's there level of commitment going to be vs. someone who just signs up for a forum, reads a book or watches a couple of RSD videos?

Author:  NaughtyNapoleon [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:36 am ]
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So today i met up with an old teacher of mine that i used to have in high school who is a hypnotist. Part of the reason we meet up is so that i can learn hypno AND so i can personally be hypnotized

So today i got hypnotized to have no "Approach Anxiety" whatsoever, and today i approach just about every available female i saw.

Now my concern is just technique, I can always start the chess game, i just need to learn how to end the game.
Escalation is the only key you need to do to end the game.

Everything eventually ends up at bed..

Good luck for you dude

Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:59 am ]
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forget hypnotism , I'm a magician...

with just one girl's ass, I can make my cock disappear

Author:  GamesSN [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:45 pm ]
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There's no rule book to picking up so there's no concrete way to 'learn'.
http://psychology.about.com/od/developm ... arning.htm

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