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Author:  Tyler13 [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

Warning: This is somewhat of a rant

Some info about me
So here I am waiting for a girl to possibly text me so we can hangout, either way I don't give a shit, I hope. I hate going to bars and clubs because I'm cheap and I hate spending money that I don't really have to spend, plus I hate straight up cold approaching although I can do it given the right circumstances. I am 5'5 3/4(I'm a shorty), decently fit. I have had sex with 3 different girls(HB: 7,7.5,6.5) and I have gotten blow jobs from 2(HB: 6,5) other girls. That is my entire sexual history. I am 24 years old, lost my virginity at 23(last year). I have a girlfriend(7) which allows me to see other girls; I couldn't be happier with my current relationship with her.

I am by no means experienced, nor a player, nor do I consider myself to be pulling the hottest babes.

Having said that. I didn't know PUAHate existed, I can't find the site anymore except on reddit. I am somewhat familiar with redpill stuff but I'm not sure what all the hate is about. Just looking over the thread titles pua and Redpill stuff has been demonized. My friend tells me how he sometimes feels burnt out from PUA stuff, and how he needs to take breaks from it. He reads a lot of Roosh's stuff. I don't really understand what the beef is with people hating on PUA. PUA has helped me A LOT, not necessarily pull the hottest girls but it definitely enabled me to take the first step and start talking to girls.

Elliot Roger
Poor guy, I only feel sorry for him. I have had similar thoughts, never about hurting anyone tho. Just bitterness and self-hated. My attitude has improved with meditation and spirituality since those dark days. However, it is harder for people looking for immediate gratification. I know I sometimes blame my height for lack of success it is a very convenient scapegoat but I never thought of giving up. I always though Mystery had the right idea, I still do. It's just that his principles have to be tailored to your own personality. That is what has worked for me. Reflecting back on this poor, he seems good looking, smart, well spoken, a bit psychopathic but I guess under better conditions he would have been a much more pleasant person.

I don't really know what I'm looking for here I just want to get thoughts and opinions on what might have lead this guy to do this, and what game is today?

Update: She didn't text me. At least she didn't blatantly say she didn't wanna hangout so that leaves a possibility of seeing her in the future. I feel sick.

Author:  southern_gentlemangq [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

ok here it is....guys like elliot feel they are amazing guys, but the lack of getting girls make them question that self thought......Elliot from his videos seems charismatic, funny, but very creepy...he probably tried tog et women ALOT but always failed.....as much as we hate to think about it males have ONE main goal and that is to reproduce, so with a lack of sex we find reason to why we can't get it....most guys blame girls which makes sense.....most guys treat girls the way they would want to be treated...thats why we compliment girls because we want to be complimented, we buy girls stuff because that what would get our attention, so when a girl only want a jerk/asshole/etc we can't logically understand why...we end up calling girls stupid, we hate the type of guys she chooses, and we become bitter little pricks....that's probably what happened to elliot

i won't lie, i feel the same as elliot sometime, i feel some girls are plain out stupid, they pick the worst guys, i have way better success with girls when i only want sex than when i want a relationship. but the differences is, elliot never understood that girls are just different...he would rather go out as the nice guy who was overlooked so girls would say wow we need to give more guys like him a chance,

Author:  Pikeman85 [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

Women want different things from a partner than you do.

What you consider the "worst" guy, is just what turns her on. That's reality.

Ignore it if you want, but accepting reality and becoming the type of man that is attractive to women will be the only real way to get more of them.

Author:  southern_gentlemangq [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

Quote:
Women want different things from a partner than you do.

What you consider the "worst" guy, is just what turns her on. That's reality.

Ignore it if you want, but accepting reality and becoming the type of man that is attractive to women will be the only real way to get more of them.
exactly what i was trying to say but failed at saying lol

Author:  Mr_International [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

He was an AAFC: Above Average Frustrated Chump.

One of the greatest bits of advice I have taken with me from PU was from DeAngelo's Inner Game:

"Emotions are addictive."

That's what happened to Elliot. He developed these feelings and latched on to them. He allowed them to consume him.

Author:  wingintyme [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

what was his username on here? i can not remember

Author:  Tyler13 [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Thoughts on Elliot Roger...

Quote:
He was an AAFC: Above Average Frustrated Chump.

One of the greatest bits of advice I have taken with me from PU was from DeAngelo's Inner Game:

"Emotions are addictive."

That's what happened to Elliot. He developed these feelings and latched on to them. He allowed them to consume him.
That sounds right. After a while from thinking about this rant I guess the question I was trying to as is: Did Elliot experience something we haven't? Was he just really mentally weak? There is also no doubt that his game probably sucked, and his mentors were probably really poor. Anyway, thoughts?

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