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| Author: | Incubus69 [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ever get a "I have a boyfriend" issue? |
Ever get a HB that says, "I have a boyfriend!"? Well there's there are some reasons for that. I've read a article on www.seductionbase.com about how to deal with it. I've had several experiences with that and I just got discouraged and walked away. This was the whole point of saying, "I have a boyfriend" because one I made her feel uncomfortable and plus I showed too many IOI's. After reading articles on why a girl says she has a boyfriend, and BF Detroyer routines, and such sort. I summerized and gathered all the info that I've read to benefit you guys! I gave credit to www.seductionbase.com so it's not authoritically mine. However, I've noticed wher emy pit falls when I was picking up girls when I was younger. Some of them say, "Nah, I have a boyfriend" or "I'm sorry...I'm kinda seeing this person" or better yet this is my favorite, "No thanks! I'm seeing someone else right now!" I remembr being at a birthday party at my friends house. The HB was sitting on the stairs alone and I sat besides her (needy). I told her that she was cute and I'll like to get to know her. (WRONGO! Got me blown out faster than you can idiot!) she told me that she was currently seeing someone. What did I do I walked away with my tails behind my legs. So this is why I've read and summerized in my own words but still relating to what the site said. 1) When a HB immediately says they have a boyfriend it means one or two things: a) They're not interested in you. You've showed her too much interest. Which first of all women like when you show them IOD because it provides them to chase you. If you showed them too many IOI's or IOI's off the bat then they'll be like, "Why in the fuck is this guy liking me all of a sudden? ALl he wants is my pussy!" b) You've escalated too much, too soon. In otherwords, you've used KINO too fast when she was wasn't ready and it wasn't in her comfort zone. If you rush in too fast with kino, it will look like all you're after is a piece of ass which will have her throw up her ASD. 2) When a HB mentions it later on during the interaction. It could be these reasons: a) She's giving you a shit test. She's seeing if you're congruent with your frame or not. She's testing you in a way to see what you're response will be. If you react to her shit test then you fail but if you act like it doesn't affect you then you'll pass. b) She's preventing her ASD to kick in which will prevent her from acting on what she really wants to do. Other women are very brutal with other women by calling each other "sluts". They do so because they want to lower the status or social proof of the woman. The reason why they throw up their ASD is because to prevent her from looking like a slut. So does it necessarily mean it's a bad thing when she mentions she has a boyfriend? It really doesn't matter first of all. She could or could not have a boyfriend but just mentioning it to deter you away from her so you walk away like a idiot. Just like my example above with the HB at the party-what did I do? I walked away feeling like a idiot. SHe could've been seeing someone but maybe not, who knows! There are ways to get around it! 1) Go with it and do Furture Adventures Projections. Which was hard for me to understand but makes since to the term used. What you want to do is project a future of eihter you or what it would be like for her to be with her boyfriend. Marriage, kids, cars, wealth, whatever. 2) Ignore it likes he didn't even mention it. If you do this then you control your frame by not reacting to her little shit. You show her that you could care less whether or not she has a boyfriend or not. 3) Pull her into your own reality like saying to her, "Well, I have a girlfriend too!" and going on what you were saying. This will throw her off balance and make her go WTF? look on her face. She'll then be more at ease and feel more comfort with you. Future Adventures are alot like projecting some kinda future with her or whatever like having a big house, getting married some wierd location or las vegas, having kids, being rich or some shit like that. HB: I have a boyfriend. PUA: Wow! He must be a really great guy! I bet he's a really perfect match for you. Maybe in the future you'll get married, have a big house with a huge white fence, and 4 kids with a luxious car! This will not only realize that he's maybe not perfect for her-so then she'll start bashing him. Also, it will make a opportunity for you to run a BF Destroyer Routine. When she's bashing her boyfriend to death, she'll replace him with you by experiencing the moment where she feels really good! The term BF Destroyer is bashing boyfriend to smitherines and allowing her to feel good for you. I've seen this done in movies like, "EdTv" and others. YOu're bashng her boyfriend where she'll think of you besides her boyfriend temporary, so you will be able to fuck her. Boyfriend Routines run on the simple principle of not bashing her boyfriend directly but making her realize that maybe he's not perfect and start bashing him for you. Leaving you a window of opportunity to fuck her. Three phases a BF Routine runs by: 1) Future Adventure Projection 2) What would be the ideal boyfriend for her. 3) Disqualifying yourself of why you wouldn't make a good boyfriend. This is a DLV and also a disqualifier. Well, if you think about it-it makes sense. If you bash your own self and disqualify yourself then it will look like a DLV. Here's my own example following the pattern of a BF Destroyer: HER: I have a boyfriend! PUA: Wow! I bet he's such a perfect guy for you! I mean maybe down the future you'll both be married in las vegas, buy a big huge house with a white fence around it. Five kids or maybe more! HER: Oh well he's not really blah blah blah. PUA: I would say the ideal boyfriend for a girl like you would be a guy that is fun, socialable, challeging, caring and compassionate, dominate and makes all the choices, makes romantic dinner for you, rubs your feet at night, watch sappy movies with you, buy you flowers and all that such sort! HER: That sound's right! PUA: You wouldn't want to date me because I would come home late at night, demand dinner, let you clean the whole house, watch my horror films or action films while you're with your girlfriends do what girls do, drink beer with my friends, party late at night until I didn't come home! If she mentions it during the interaction it's usually because of her ASD kicking in. A woman has a defense mechanism called Anti-Slut Defense. A woman doesn't want to be viewed a slut who sleeps around with every girl. Other rival girlfriends would call a woman a slut and ruin her social proof. So these ASD are here emotional programmed to activate when she feels uncomfortable in a way that won't allow others of viewing her as a slut as well how you will view her. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't like you, it could be possibly that she does like you and wants to fuck and that's it. Whatever her boyfriend isn't giving her, she'll possibly want you to fill that gap inside her. For example, my friend call her Danni. She and I hung out all the time. She was a married woman but some how I guess her husband wasn't giving her enough sex. She would let me spank her ass, kiss her, hold hands with her, talk dirty to her and tell her my fantasies. WHy? She wanted me to fill that gap that her husband wasn't giving her. Later on before she moved I heard she had feelings towards me while getting a divorce with her husband. She moved to NC with this guy who she cheated on but didn't go out with me. I was a client and she was a staff and with those regulations set in place she would get in big trouble for having sex with me. We would've and I know it. She mentioned about how good she sucked dick and how she can make a guy blow his load in seconds. This was a IOSI of course. She was scared of course which activated the ASD or LMR of doing anything sexual or making out or whatever because she didn't want to get in trouble and plus she didn't want to get caught. However, women love the ideal of being naughty with a man. I hope this thread helped! Peace out! |
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| Author: | L.A. Tripp [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:07 am ] |
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Ok, so you're saying you copied and pasted this from seductionbase? |
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| Author: | Incubus69 [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:09 am ] |
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No I've read and gathered from my own idea. It's not copyed and posted it's more summerized. |
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| Author: | Incubus69 [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:11 am ] |
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The example about the BF Destroyer was my own example gathered by the routine of how to do it. So in a ways Tripp, I read several articles and summerized it as what I thought and add some experience. |
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| Author: | Incubus69 [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:18 am ] |
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Okay guys, maybe it sounded like Copy and Pasted. However, I edited it so it sounded more of my thoughts. |
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