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Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Hangman Phone Number Opener
Hey,

I'm new to this forum, so I don't know if this has been thoroughly discussed - but here it is:

- Draw a hangman setup on your arm and put (_ _ _) _ _ _ - _ _ _ _ next to it
- Tell a girl you will give her $100 dollars if she can beat you in hangman
- Point to your arm and hand her the pen
- Say "here's the catch, we're doing it with a ten digit number that you think of - maybe it would be convenient for you to use your phone number since you know it by heart - but it could be any number"
- Play hangman
- Over 99% of the time, you'll be able to guess her number, assuming that the hangman has 6 total parts (a head, body, 2 arms, 2 legs)
- Sometimes she might give you some random number, but a lot of the time I think she'll just use hers - especially if she is into you even slightly

Here's some code to simulate the results of 100,000 trials in MatLab if you're interested. I was arguing about how effective this would be with a friend - the answer is better than 99%! That means even if you offer the $100 for beating you, you will still pay less than a dollar on average every time you use this.

n = 100000;
wins = 0;
for trials = 1:n
her_number = randi([0 9],1,10);
already_guessed = zeros(1,10);
already_guessed = already_guessed+10;
hung = 0;
winner = 0;
while hung < 6
guess = randi([0 9]);
if ~isempty(already_guessed(already_guessed==10))
while ~isempty(already_guessed(already_guessed==guess))
guess = randi([0 9]);
end
end
is_it_right = her_number(her_number == guess);
if ~isempty(is_it_right)
her_number(her_number == guess) = 10;
else
hung = hung+1;
end
win = (her_number(her_number==10));
if length(win) == 10
winner = 1;
end
already_guessed(1,guess+1) = guess;
end
if winner == 1
wins = wins+1;
end
end
total_wins = wins
total_trials = n
success_rate = total_wins/total_trials
Author:  DJ_Z [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
I have a degree in economics, I get all the math, but this is fucking stupid.
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
Quote:
I have a degree in economics, I get all the math, but this is fucking stupid.
thanks for the constructive criticism - I'll keep it in mind every time this works for me
Author:  CJCoast [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
Quote:
Quote:
I have a degree in economics, I get all the math, but this is fucking stupid.
thanks for the constructive criticism - I'll keep it in mind every time this works for me
_______________________________

I think I'll try to put this in nicer, more practical terms...

This whole opener is predicated on the idea that a girl is comfortable giving her phone number to a comoplete stranger, and I posit that this is not the case. Best case scenario, she chooses a different number in her mind - the number to a friend, the number to work, etc.

I'll admit, I haven't tried this as an opener. I can see a good deal of potential in running it maybe midway through comfort building, though, so I am not totally discounting it.

By all means, though, refine it and post results. It seems a bit overthought and could easily be ruined through clumsiness and over complication. Is there a way to simplify it, perhaps?
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
I tried this in line for a food truck at lunch today just to see, and here are my observations:

- I didn't actually open with it - I used it in the middle of the conversation
- I didn't say anything about $100
- I didn't use my arm, I used a notepad
- Just like the math predicts, I got the number no problem
- We're going to get drinks later

So, with n=1, and some tweaks, it can be done.. Does anyone have ideas for improving it? I ended up introducing it a little awkwardly since I strayed from the super-awkward $100 dollar thing that seemed like it was going to make her seem like a prostitute.
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
No it doesn't work every time you vague bugger!

How would you define "works every time?"

Getting flakey phone number doesn't count. Not to mention some girls are happily taken so it wouldn't work on them. Have you fucked any of those girls??

It would only work when you're in the mid game and that she obvious likes you. But at this stage just asking her "let's stay in touch" would just work anyway! and you can bypass the whole routine

Taking pens to clubs is super lame and you will get a lot of shit tests "do you take your pen out with you and use this on all the girls?" (and probably fail the tests).

Let's be honest, nothing works 'every time', approaching the right girls at the right place at the right time that are looking for the D and you might get lucky, but I would say it is the fact that you have approached a DTF girl ,rather than the hangman opener itself.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
Numbers don't mean shit. Women will hand them out without ever wanting to see the guy. They simply do not want to come off as rude. This is just a way to brag to other guys about getting digits. But she'll view you as a dancing monkey and never answer a call or text.

This does nothing to help you get laid. It's just a means of bragging "oh dude i got her # in 4 minutes, i'm so cool!" when every guy who's had sex in the last month knows that she will never fuck you.
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
My claim was that you could guess a ten digit number by playing hangman with 6 body parts over 99% of the time.

I didn't say anything about having sex with girls who are in relationship.

If anyone has something useful to say, or an experience trying this , I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, why bother responding at all?
Author:  Dragula [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
This is a forum about seduction.

I could make a survey and get girls phone numbers. But doesn't mean i'm going to fuck them. So, in my opinion. We are calling you out on your post because a new guy could read this and think this could be legit when on fact it isn't.
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
Okay, I'll make a survey, get a girl's phone number - and then bang her. Challenge accepted.
Author:  Dragula [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
Or..

You could try to get laid using the hang man routine just one time

Good luck either way
Author:  RunTheNumbers [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hangman Phone Number Opener
ok - look forward to my field report either way ;)
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