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| Author: | ahti [ Sat May 31, 2014 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Getting better, but failed an easy shit test yesterday |
Just a quick account of last night and my critical error. I am fairly new to PUA techniques, but I'm a very quick learner and didn't have absolutely horrible luck with women before deciding to simply improve my social life and game all at once and learn some new things about social dynamics. I delve 100% into whatever I'm doing. I've only been familiar with PUA for about a week, but my conversations and success has been so much better already. I can't wait to be the best I can. Anyway, on to the story. Last night while speaking to a fellow musician at the local bar (neither of us were working/playing last night) two girls were standing near. One was a little large and homely, but the other was easily a 9...someone I wouldn't normally bother speaking to BEFORE LEARNING ABOUT PUA. I said fuck it, and wasted no time to introduce myself. I was immediately given a shit test. Me: what is your favorite talent. Her: being fucking adorable *looks away*. I was exhausted yesterday and feeling a little slap happy. At this point I wanted to fuck with her a little, and just kind of tease her, so I did. Me: that's not a talent, I meant something real. Her: *laughs* i'm not good at anything. After a few more back and forths she opened up. I said she is probably a teacher because she communicates so directly and effectively (I was right, but just dumb luck probably). She said she was a psych/social major and studied reading people. I asked her to do this to me. She nervously declined, then I asked again and failed. We both realized that I just did a better job reading her than she did me. Felt good. At this point, I realized her feet were crossed, she was engaging me 100% and even had her back turned to her friend within 2 minutes. I had started kino at this point. I began with a friendly high five, but kept her hand in mine for another 5 seconds. I let go, not her. I escalated and tested the waters. She was ok with everything. I stepped to the side a bit, she turned to me. I stepped in closer, almost unreasonably close (the band was very loud though). Everything I did was received with positive body language or an IOI. Her friend kept bugging her to leave, but she remained engaged. When I realized that they legitimately did need to leave and it wasn't just an excuse, I immediately tried to close. Her: *turns to me* I need to take my friend somewhere, but I'll be back. Me: I have to leave soon as well, but we should see each other again. Her: *smiles, then looks down* I don't think my boyfriend would like that very much. At this point, I almost instantly reverted to my previously socially conditioned self. I did manage to keep the conversation going another 2-3 minutes (something I never would have done before). I found out he lived 3 hours away, and she genuinely didn't seem happy with him (inferred, i didn't ask that). I failed when I said: sorry, you were just giving me good vibes for the past 30 minutes. It pretty much ended there. Ok, so first, I managed to get much, much further than I would have dreamed of two weeks ago. I wouldn't have even engaged her two weeks ago. I have no intent to steal anyone's girl, I think that is wrong. However, looking back i realized she actually wasn't happy with this guy, and there are a few things I could have done, like simply asking if she was happy with him. I probably could have just said: what's wrong with two people having an intelligent conversation over a coffee...or something like that. Anyway, I shut down. I'm not sure if this was actually a shit test or genuine. I later asked another friend of hers (male) if she did in fact have a boyfriend, and she wasn't lying. Anyway, I thought the interaction was interesting, and even though I shut down in the end, it went much better than I ever could've done before. Any critique would be great, thanks. |
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| Author: | TheGameSays [ Sat May 31, 2014 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting better, but failed an easy shit test yesterday |
From the sounds of your story.. The only thing you could have done, opposed to telling her she seemed interested, was just asked for her number for a *friendly* meet up at a cafe sometime. Obviously she's not leaving her boyfriend because she hasn't found anything that interested her enough yet. You managed all of this judging by her IOI's that you were getting and her body language. I'd say next time, just go in for the kill. Get her number. You can even acknowledge that she has a boyfriend and go with something like: "Ok look, I know you have a boyfriend but I'd still like to get your number. You've entertained this conversation long enough for me to accept a coffee date with you one day." Not necessarily that way, but something in the proper tone to make her laugh and yet, think you are genuinely not going to push her to do anything she doesn't want to do. Eventually she will break off. Just remember not to get yourself into the friend zone before she calls it off with her boyfriend. |
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| Author: | hackney [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting better, but failed an easy shit test yesterday |
Agree with TheGameSays. Put her in the friend zone. Keep her warm for later. My ex had a boyfriend when I met her. (I was not aware of the game at that moment). She told me she had a boyfriend and even if it was not going well, she still respected that, so I respected her mindset and thought: "that's a good girl to be in a relationship with". We didn't do anything but talk, and exchange facebook at the end of a good fun night. She was living in a country and me in another one and leaving the next day. We talked on Facebook for a week, then switch to SPAM. After two weeks she broke up with him because she felt guilty talking to me and only thinking of me all the time and just wanted to talk to me on Facebook again and again, and then I went to visit her a month after and we stayed together for more than a year and yes, I moved to her country - LOL. I know. Crazy story but true. One of the best thing that happened in my life! (also I got to say that I approached her in a 8-set without knowing anything about the game; I just had a massive love at the first sight for her; when you feel this is the girl, then I think you don't need any game and you just say fuck it I want her, I was super shy at the time also... took me balls. She was from far the hottest girl in the club) The reason why I share my experience with you is to tell you that you never know what can happen. So take her contact detail, don't be needy, don't try to steal her from her BF. Just keep it cool. If she likes you, she will leave the guy because feel weird at some point. And that will be a massive IOI for you if she does that. But keep it cool and act with her like if she never did to not show her too much interest back as she might regret and not be attracted to you anymore by seeing you needy or too much excited about it |
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| Author: | ahti [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting better, but failed an easy shit test yesterday |
Thanks guys. Good input. I was mainly just disappointed in myself that I shut down, and didn't continue on. Next time, I will know to just suggest a friendly meet up. I actually felt pretty good leaving that set though, since I normally wouldn't have even engaged her anyway. |
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| Author: | RunTheNumbers [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting better, but failed an easy shit test yesterday |
Good on you for engaging her in the first place! Statistically speaking, that's the winning strategy! |
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