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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
I just had one hell of a fucked up date with an SHB. I invited her to mine for food and drinks before hitting up a pub and club. I cooked and had fun with her. She was extremely nervous and vocally told me how nervous she was to be in a guy's apartment. I went to kiss her, she pulled back, said she was nervous and needed to calm down so I gently grabbed her, gave her a bit of a hug and told her she's nervous because she's not giving herself the chance to be close to someone. She loosened up a little hugged me and kissed me on the lips then we went out onto the balcony with a glass of wine each, I joked a bit and calmed her down. Now it gets weird... We're talking, she's still nervous then she randomly blurts out that she wants to switch drinks. I say "Ehm, okay?" switch drinks, drink out of her glass and give her a questioning look. She starts going on about the difference in her culture and how it "always leads to bad things in a man's apartment/house." and made me promise I wouldn't do anything. Then she tells me how she learned not to drink anything from a guy you haven't seen him pour for you... you know, incase he tries to roofie her. Then she goes on about how she's told her friends where she is, to check in on her with messages to see she's okay, told them my address, my facebook and anything else she knows about me and basically tells me "If anything happens they'll know." What. The. Fuck. Right, so, we get that out of the way. I'm looking at her a bit weirded out and she gets embarrassed... We move past it, start making out, she's cuddling into me and then before we leave to head out we start making out more heavily. She's pressing up against me, touching me all over, letting me touch her all over, losing her breath to the point that she's panting and literally tells me she's breathless because of the kiss. It was heavy enough for a kiss. I didn't press further because of the above craziness. Her body language was screaming "More, more, more!" but her words were basically saying "No. I don't want to." and it wasn't simply token resistance here either it was literally like her body and mind were two completely separate entities where she's removed her physical self from her emotional self. After a bit of that I kiss her and told her she's getting carried away and that we should go. We leave and as we're walking towards the club she starts mumbling words just so I could hear... "Sleep with me, sleep with me, sleep with me." I wasn't drunk and i'm 99% sure that's exactly what she was mumbling but what the fuck?! This chick basically wouldn't kiss me at first because she was too nervous/shy, harped on about not wanting anything to happen and then to solidify that statement she tells me she's told everyone she knows where she is and if anything happens -- anything -- they'll know. Then she comes out with going crazy with me making out, kissing my neck, cuddling me and then repeating "sleep with me, sleep with me, sleep with me" under her breath after we've left my apartment and are heading to meet some friends. Then she leaves as soon as we meet my friends and says she's embarrassed. She wants to meet up with me again -- I suggested we see each other again last night -- and cook for me in my apartment. Should I just run far away from this girl? I'm a bit freaked out by how she was acting. Am I overreacting to this and thinking too much about it when she was probably just nervous? Opinions? I think she may have been in certain situations in her home country, however... She did hint at it but I didn't pry. She said she had "friends" who had things happened to but she was looking down at the floor as she said this and her whole body language was clearly indicating she wasn't talking about her friends. |
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| Author: | GGplayer [ Thu May 15, 2014 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Before I post I want to clarify: Was this your first date? |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Quote: Before I post I want to clarify: Was this your first date?
It was our first real date. I met her around a month and a half before and k-closed her a month ago. Didn't speak to her much after that because she had to leave the country. When she got back I asked her over for dinner which was last night.
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu May 15, 2014 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
She straight up clearly wants to fuck you silly, but does not want to look like the slut that she is, neither to you or her gal pals, that she has already sworn her imaginary virtue too. Lead her to the bedroom, while repeating that she's a "good girl" and we shouldn't be doing this! Prior to copulating, text her right there in your apartment, "Do you like being here with me?" and for your own protection, SAVE THE FUCKING ANSWER! Then after do the same thing! "Last night was fantastic, did you like being sexy with me?" SAVE THE FUCKING ANSWER! |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Makes sense but the way she was going on it was as if she was thinking I was going to rape her or something. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu May 15, 2014 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Quote: Makes sense but the way she was going on it was as if she was thinking I was going to rape her or something.
She wants the idyllic fantasy of "Rape". Women want physical manly control. Like for example, when I pick up a woman before throwing her down on the bed to bang her, she usually squeals with delight as soon as she feels herself being taken control of by me. I've never known a woman who didn't like to be pounded hard, and she wants the same thing. She just can't TELL you that! After all she's a "good girl." |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
I'm not 100% convinced on that but how you would suggest going about our next meeting? Just physically escalate and bring her up to my room? Any specifics for LMR here? I mean, i'm totally caught off guard by how she acted and how much she stressed about her friends knowing everything and her insisting on us switching drinks as if she genuinely thought i'd rape her or something. She even mentioned calling the police at one point! That's how nuts it is. |
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| Author: | GGplayer [ Thu May 15, 2014 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Idk she's sounds kinda crazy. It sounds like she kinda wants to fuck you but isn't comfortable enough with you to really wanna fuck you. I'd say bring her out somewhere where you 2 can be alone so you can escalate but there are people near you, then move her somewhere else, rinse and repeat, then bring her back to your place and resume from there. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu May 15, 2014 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Quote: Any specifics for LMR here?
Keep telling her what a good girl she is while your making out and escalating. How you never do this sort of thing this early in. It wasn't your plan. That sort of shit.
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Quote: Idk she's sounds kinda crazy. It sounds like she kinda wants to fuck you but isn't comfortable enough with you to really wanna fuck you. I'd say bring her out somewhere where you 2 can be alone so you can escalate but there are people near you, then move her somewhere else, rinse and repeat, then bring her back to your place and resume from there.
She keeps saying she's a serious woman and hasn't been with many guys(But I take this to always be bullshit no matter the girl) so I expected a lot more comfort than usual to have her relaxed for anything physical but the way she went on... it's just crazy. I'm genuinely afraid she could jump on my dick and then blame me the next day. It's just the impression I was given...I told her next time she's over she could stay in mine if it was easier for her but she flat out declined without entertaining the possibility of it if even "for convenience." I mean, you're both right, I definitely think she wants to do something but she's holding back and she needs a lot more comfort and leading towards it but at the same time I am genuinely afraid she's crazy and what she ends up pushing for/wanting she'll turn around the next day and blame me in some shape or form. That's my biggest worry here when it comes to pulling the trigger and escalating. Infact, i'm pretty sure she would definitely be up for it if I pressed for it but the chick has got me nervous about doing it in the odd chance she ends up saying I forced it to happen. I've never been in this situation before... It's messed up. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu May 15, 2014 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
If your gut feeling is that strong, blow her off. It's not worth the risk, unless you have clear evidence on your phone that she is good with it. That may appear weak, or needy, who fucking cares. You don't want your next sexual encounter to be a dick in your ass behind bars. |
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Thu May 15, 2014 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Quote: If your gut feeling is that strong, blow her off.
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. I guess it's best to just get verbal confirmation before doing anything if this is actually the case. May be weak but at least I won't be risking this turning on me and getting used to soap tied to my finger with a piece of string.It's not worth the risk, unless you have clear evidence on your phone that she is good with it. That may appear weak, or needy, who fucking cares. You don't want your next sexual encounter to be a dick in your ass behind bars. Such a nightmare! |
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| Author: | alphabro [ Fri May 16, 2014 7:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Sounds like a fucking looney toon. As the guys above said, she probably does want to bone but be careful man! |
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| Author: | hopeforthebest [ Tue May 27, 2014 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Yeah. She sounds kind of crazy. Maybe she has been roofied or raped before or someone close to her has, so that is why is so weird about drinks and such, but idk about the mumbling under the breath thing. That is super creepy. If you get with her just as alphabro said be careful. She might have some bolts loose, but I don't know much about her, so that is your judgement to make. -Lindsay |
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| Author: | sugarwallz616 [ Tue May 27, 2014 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Opinions on a really bad/nightmarish and confusing date |
Never stick your dick in crazy bro. Honestly i've had something like this happen to me before where the girl insists that she doesn't want to do anything and that she has high morals, but then proceeds to stick her tongue in my throat. Women are confusing at times because of this but with reason: she doesn't want to be seen as a hoe and that is understandable, and i like what was mentioned above in regards to mentioning that she was a "good girl" over and over again. But really dude, if she is being overly cautious around you and saying stuff about calling the police, that would be a no go for me; If the girl feels like i'm making her uncomfortable, than that is making me uncomfortable. |
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