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| Author: | CRANK-SHAFT [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:53 am ] |
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Hey everyone.. I just signed up recently Just turned 18 yesterday and happy about it. I am not a very active social person in the sense of going to clubs and stuff, but am beginning to look better than ever. I am pretty ripped and got my cologne on so yeah in that department I am alright. I mostly have trouble meeting people as I don't really go out much and have been hell busy with studying as this is my final year of secondary education. Ok. this is what I am planning for next week. I met this girl in this maths tutoring place last week and talked to her only a few seconds, not any obvious IOIs from her but I am trying my best to send the right signals. The problem is Its hard to tell if she likes me or not coz its paid tutoring and everyone focuses on their work mostly. This is what I did- everyone leaves down the lifts and then I stood there coz I knew she would come out soon. She came out and I asked her where she lives and what school she is from and stuff. I was feeling confident and was Surprised but how well I handled it. Then we came out and I would love to have held her back but she was picked up by her dad in a car. Instead of standing there and staring at her I decided to keep stepping in my direction (I live nearby but she lives far away) surprisingly she also drove off down the same road. Then they waited at the lights and there was a definite gaze in my direction for about 2 seconds. I gotta get this girl! She is in the same year and possibly the hottest, smartest asian girl I met. Anyways for next week, I plan to get there early. Improve my body language and this is what I planned- evaluate plz:: in the elevator or wherever we are after class- got a 30sec time limit. - ME: so your cold got better eh? wonder how you got it in the first place? -Emily: blah blah - I CUT IN- -ME: whatever. so what subjects are you into now? -Emily: 'hopefully quick reply' -ME: You know you're pretty beautiful, but beauty is common, so not very attractive. Its the other things that matter like your obvious intellect and that beautiful voice. I bet you don't sound as good on a microphone LOL -Emily: says something hopefully about herself or me -ME: well prove me wrong then. You got MSN- whats your address? -Emily: hopefully gives it to me.. Now, its gonna be almost time to get picked up by her dad and I don't wanna blow it so should I try some subtle kino or ask for her phone number aswell. I would have done so but I only see her once a week and what are the chances of the girl trusting me. OR is it possible that despite the awkward scenario If I handle myself she will give it to me. Guys tweak this convo and let me know what I should do next saturday. I need this girl for the FORMAL at the end of Year 12 LOLZ HELP Thanks a bunch |
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| Author: | Xecutioner [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:58 am ] |
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Alright man, Im gonna help you out because, quite frankly, you really need it. You got it all wrong my friend. Its great that you are taking action and actually initiating a conversation with her. Thats the hardest part but your first mistake was this: On your first approach you started in with a whole shitload of "fluff" or small talk. This kinda conversation fits into the category of "comfort building." You need to start with "attraction." It goes: Attraction---->Comfort--> Seduction... Roughly I might add. You ought to look into the mystery method and I reccomend the Venusian Handbook (get it easy off a torrent site). It explains it much better. A good site I reccomend for good routines, openers, and basic methods of seduction is www.seductiontuition.com There is a link menu on the left side that will help you alot man. Mystery puts it like this: "Why would a woman who isnt attracted to you care what your name is or even bother to remember it?" As you are learning this you will come to realize that your hypothetical conversation is promising faliure. Why is there a 30 second time limit? Get her to stop and talk to you. Social nature demands her to at least listen to what you are saying when you engage in a conversation. When you talk position yourself so that when she turns towards you she is facing away from her original destination. This helps to disable her need to keep moving. Do not ask her boring ass questions about her cold. Depending on what her rating is (1-10) negs can either hurt or help. If she has a low self esteem she will take negs the wrong way. This is all pretty basic shit, and you have alot to learn. Thats why nobody bothered to post a reply. Like I said, check that site out. There is alot of useful shit in there for beginners. |
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| Author: | bantermania [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:50 pm ] |
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-ME: You know you're pretty beautiful, but beauty is common, so not very attractive. Its the other things that matter like your obvious intellect and that beautiful voice. I bet you don't sound as good on a microphone LOL You are trying to qualify too early. First build some attraction. Read it here: http://www.seductiontuition.com/attract ... lding.html Have fun, tease her. Also don;t think too much about her and get a onitis. She is just one out of the many girls you'll practice with. Don't be result dependent. |
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| Author: | Jay Wa [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:01 am ] |
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Break the ice with this opener, and then take the rest of these people's advice. "To be honest, I would have never took you for a math tutor. . ." - You You're alluding to the subject, but its gonna make her curious why you think that. . . |
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| Author: | nuked [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:18 am ] |
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Xecutioner is right, you have all the things you need to get her attention. Which thus means you really won't have much time past the opener. However it may be all you need. I would suggest a female perspective opener. Here's Style's jealous girl friend opener: "Hey I need a female perspective on something. This'll only take a minute. My roommate's girlfriend just found a shoebox he keeps hidden in a dresser drawer, and she's really upset about it. It's nothing bad, just pictures of him and ex-girlfriends on vacation and old love letters he got in high school and stuff. But for some reason his girlfriend is freaking out about this and wants him to get rid of it or she's threatening to break up with him. Is this normal female behavior?" So now she wants him to burn the box or she's leaving him, isn't that fucked up?? At this point you should then tell her that you like her outlook on the topic and would like to talk to again, but for now you have to go. Either she'll give you her number or you wait to see her again. The next time you see her you would run a routine. Keep repeating process until you can setup a day 1 or get her number. |
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| Author: | CRANK-SHAFT [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:53 am ] |
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hey girls thanks for all the replies. This stuff is quite new to me and i will be honest that I almost always end up in the friend zone. I got the Mystery method recently and started off but i thought that negging on her sexy voice would be a turn on and build attraction. Oh, and one more thing.... If I did begin with a jealous girlfriend opener- how would that lead into to a convo about US and not some made up random person. Anyways, I really appreciate your help and hopefully by next week can come up with something. I will keep posting with more things that I come across and you guys can help me out lol. Oh, and on the side note, I am really trying to take this as a tester of the new skills rather than develop onitis. |
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| Author: | Pankratos [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:19 pm ] |
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It doesn't even matter, it warms her up to you and initiates the conversation. After her first response you can throw away the opener if you want, and just go on with a few lines then dive into a DHV. Don't over think this mate, or you'll blow it out of proportion and get anxious, then REALLY blow it. |
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| Author: | nuked [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:50 am ] |
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Yeah, the opener is just her opinion. If you need to get her off the topic, run another opener, or jump straight into your routines. |
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