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Author:  T8SIG92 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  ive been frozen out!
im going to give a short background story, then a timeline of last week

HB9, i know her from about 2 years ago, we went on a few "dates" (no kissing), excellent conversations, lots of chemistry. for personal reasons i told her we should just be friends (she was disappointed). fast forward about 2 years and i see her again hanging out with a mutual friend. well the chemistry gets re-ignitied, and we started talking on the phone a lot, she tells me things like "you know how you can look into someone's eyes and just know ur meant to be together" and lots of other heavy stuff, she wears her heart on her sleeve. So finally I set up an official date to the movies, we have a blast, laugh, kino, and finally i kiss close her. it was an excellent kiss, and i know she liked it.

the date was last tuesday (2/12)

called her wednesday and had a little convo, i did something kinda AFC. i mentioned the kiss and asked her if she liked it. i feel stupid for bringing that up

nothing thursday

friday i call her, no answer (i did not leave a message)

saturday i call her, no answer (i did not leave a message)

i havent called her since, and she hasnt called me either. What did i do wrong, and what can i still do? im thinking about giving her a call today or tomorrow with an ultimatum, telling her i dont have time for games and i have plenty of options etc.

thanks
Author:  KingMidas [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:47 pm ]
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i havent called her since, and she hasnt called me either. What did i do wrong, and what can i still do? im thinking about giving her a call today or tomorrow with an ultimatum, telling her i dont have time for games and i have plenty of options etc.

DON'T DO IT MAN!!! I know it sucks, but don't call or text her. Go sarging or set up a date with another girl for this weekend. Next week, if you absolutely have to, just text her a joke including punchline so it is a closed thread. If she replies, it is IOI and you are back in business. If she doesn't reply, you have to put your energy into other girls.

As far as what you did wrong... it may be that you didn't do anything wrong. Girls are a perfect specimen of chaos theory in action. There may be other men coming and going in her life that affect the way she feels about seeing you. Only thing you can do about it is keep flipping her attraction switches at every opportunity, and making yourself as non-needy as possible by occupying your time with other women.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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As was said, at this point, you drop her. You've already been needy and clingy, and she's already turned off by it. You asked her how the kiss was, which you already know was a mistake. She knows you don't have options, because you've called two days in a row. That's why she's not calling back. You give her space. In other words, let her go, and if she comes back, she's yours. If she doesn't, she wasn't yours anyway.
Author:  T8SIG92 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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wow...thats too needy? jesus christ
Author:  rain3 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:49 pm ]
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i like the idea of texting her a joke. if she replies i think she obviously wants to talk to you. maybe even do something like "hey my friends n i are having a bet.. whats cooler? tattoos or piercings?" and make up some garbage about how youre not allowed to say your choice until you hear hers, and say how if youre wrong, u have to get a tat on your ass or something.

but i wouldnt call again.

question tho...
when u send out jokes on text, u just mass-send to most of your contacts right? i get jokes once in a while from my friends. got one from my oneitis last night and i dont know if i should reply or not. we arent talking as much as we used to.
Author:  T8SIG92 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:52 pm ]
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her phone doesnt accept texts...

btw she sent me a message today on facebook. its some video she thought was hilarous. i dont think its funny because im kind of upset with her. how should i reply to it? i dont know if i should say "havent heard from you in a while.." or something
Author:  KingMidas [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:55 pm ]
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maybe even do something like "hey my friends n i are having a bet.. whats cooler? tattoos or piercings?" and make up some garbage about how youre not allowed to say your choice until you hear hers, and say how if youre wrong, u have to get a tat on your ass or something.
The problem with this idea is that you are asking her a question over text message, which means you put the ball in her court while you wait for her to reply!! You want to avoid asking her a question because if she continues the freeze-out, you look like an idiot while you sit around waiting for her reply. What you need to do is simply to get her smiling or laughing about something she associates with you. This is flirting... you have to flirt before you ask her out.
Author:  KingMidas [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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her phone doesnt accept texts...

btw she sent me a message today on facebook.
Facebook is basically the same game as text messaging, you just have longer time intervals between replies.

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its some video she thought was hilarous. i dont think its funny because im kind of upset with her. how should i reply to it?
I'd send her a video I like back in response and say "Mine's better :P"
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i dont know if i should say "havent heard from you in a while.." or something
I do. Don't do it =) You need to get her smiling or some other, more fun guy will.
Author:  stevenadrien [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:46 pm ]
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I would just freeze her out.

WORKS 99% OF THE TIME

DONT TALK TO HER DONT REPLY TO MESSAGE DONT CONTACT HER IN ANYWAY.

Go out, meet someone new and talk to them.
Forget she ever existed.
Author:  rain3 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:57 pm ]
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my question is, on saturday i kinda showed i was mad that she flaked on me. and froze. within 5 hours she txted me with small talk. but i froze her for 3 days and i texted her yesterday in class so she knew im not hung up/pissed about it. i just acted normal, i was happy and dhv'ing. didnt talk much.

she sent me a joke last night i didnt reply.

should i freeze her out now? will she get the idea? becuz now that ive talked to her and was fine with everything, i think she may not care knowing im fine.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:24 am ]
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her phone doesnt accept texts...

btw she sent me a message today on facebook.
Facebook is basically the same game as text messaging, you just have longer time intervals between replies.

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its some video she thought was hilarous. i dont think its funny because im kind of upset with her. how should i reply to it?
I'd send her a video I like back in response and say "Mine's better :P"
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i dont know if i should say "havent heard from you in a while.." or something
I do. Don't do it =) You need to get her smiling or some other, more fun guy will.
Excellent game there.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:26 am ]
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my question is, on saturday i kinda showed i was mad that she flaked on me. and froze. within 5 hours she txted me with small talk. but i froze her for 3 days and i texted her yesterday in class so she knew im not hung up/pissed about it. i just acted normal, i was happy and dhv'ing. didnt talk much.

she sent me a joke last night i didnt reply.

should i freeze her out now? will she get the idea? becuz now that ive talked to her and was fine with everything, i think she may not care knowing im fine.
Why are you freezing her out when she hasn't done anything wrong? You're punishing good behavior. She's wanting to talk, and you're punishing her by freezing her out. Why?
Author:  rain3 [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:33 am ]
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well she did last weekend but ur right i guess. i replied to the text but shes still not talking to me nearly as much as she used to. she used to be texting me everyday. now i dont wanna start being needy and calling her when she doesnt comply. but idk, i think i need to freeze, just not sure when
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:44 am ]
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well she did last weekend but ur right i guess. i replied to the text but shes still not talking to me nearly as much as she used to. she used to be texting me everyday. now i dont wanna start being needy and calling her when she doesnt comply. but idk, i think i need to freeze, just not sure when
Ok, here's the deal. You freeze out when she's done something wrong. If she's not texting as much, cause or say something that's EXCITING, to get her to WANT to talk to you more.
Author:  T8SIG92 [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:24 am ]
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well none of your ideas are working. i think its a bad idea to just stop talking to her all together. i know she likes me, i think shes just afraid of something.
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