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The ultimate nice guy/player that I was!!!
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Author:  JSmooth [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  The ultimate nice guy/player that I was!!!

I wanted to share this with you all on the forum because while working on my own inner programming today, I confronted myself with a thought. I took a deep look at the path I had followed with past relationships in my life, even my ex-wife. When I took a deep down look I noticed a underlying pattern and a reason for why things didn't work like they should have in the past.

In my past interaction with women this is the path I followed. I would meet a girl and just go right into building comfort with her. This might take days or hours. I would agree the "7 Hour Rule" holds true in this section of the game. Toward the end of building comfort I would start with kino and trying to kiss my target in the big akward situation. Then if I was lucky enough I would move it to seduction. When I hit LMR my weapon for this was to say, "I love you!" When of course I truely didn't I just needed a way to get around LMR, and let them know I was going to be around. Of course, I wanted to stay around for sex!

Looking back on this pattern that I followed with countless women, the reason I followed this path is very simple. It worked! Mostly on the idea of odds that after meeting enough women it would work. Because of the success I had with it, this is the pattern that I stuck to, and implemented in my brain. Hell, most of these women are still some of my greatest friends even today. Why are they still my friends because there was comfort. Why are they not my lovers, because there was no attraction really built.

I don't know how many other men have followed this pattern. It was a very deep core thought that occured to me today, and I wanted to openly discuss it with the forum.

Author:  Toots McGee [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:34 pm ]
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Wouldn't the women that you used this tactic with end up feeling completely led on & used when things didn't work out? Even if there is a lot of comfort built... and when you say you didn't spend enough time on attraction is that getting the woman into you, or you into her?

Author:  JSmooth [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:50 am ]
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Wouldn't the women that you used this tactic with end up feeling completely led on & used when things didn't work out? Even if there is a lot of comfort built... and when you say you didn't spend enough time on attraction is that getting the woman into you, or you into her?
Yes women felt that led on aftwards when things did not work out.

When I say there wasn't any attraction built I mean just that. I skipped the entire phase previously in my life. I went straight to comfort building with women in the past. Then like I said above I went from comfort to seduction.

Author:  Toots McGee [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:41 am ]
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Damn Smooth! I hope you've since apologized to those women!

Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:43 am ]
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Glad to see this step man.

Author:  JSmooth [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:34 am ]
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Damn Smooth! I hope you've since apologized to those women!
I probably should to be honest with you!
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Glad to see this step man.
Yeah, I think realizing this will help me not repeat this old habit.

Author:  Ka [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:45 am ]
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Alot of guys make this mistake, some counter by becomming a "player", which is attraction, skip comfort, goto seduction...ends pretty much the same way.

Its always good to look back in your past and notice the things that need changeing, its also good to see some things that need to be reinforced, and try to improve on those too.

I personally look back at 2 periods in my life, my one big LTR, and the time in my life where i had 3 girls in MLTR (of course they didnt know and it all crashed down on me).

From these periods i have seperated what worked, and was positive, and what didnt work, and was negative...after spending alot of time sifting through all that i have modeled my game around the things that worked, my strengths, and added canned material and out of the book concepts to fill the gaps.

Its excellent to see that alot of people seem to be makeing real, indepth, insightful and, introspected growth on the forums.

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