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| Author: | flawless [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Underachieving at College Parties - How to go about? Tips? |
Thankfully, I have a lot of things going for me in life. But one area where I falter is my conversational skills. I can be funny, charming and clever but I overanalyze situations with girls and outguess my-self. At College parties, here are some problems that arise for me: -Unfamiliar faces, other than a few people I don't now a majority of the people - so its tough to find a niche and be the center of attention. -Lots of Drunk people, and I don't drink, so I somewhat stand out. (I still hold a cup with beer anyway though). -Even with a good opener, or clever neg, it is tough to keep the conversation going. What is there to talk about? I don't want to ask her questions which would raise her value and I don't want to talk about school, so what do I talk about? Thats the biggest issue. You only have one shot to make an impression and you have to be fast because some other guy will strike if you miss your shot. So how do I take that next step in my conversation? How do I get them from small talk and intro's to getting them on my lap and making out? I see random guys at parties go from intro's to long make-out seshes in about 5-10 minutes. What am I doing wrong? I don't know if I'm being to reserved or what, but its annoying. It shouldn't be that hard to get chicks at a bustling party. I thrive at parties that have Music, but not all parties have a cracking dance floor. I am a gym-rat and a good looking guy - but my verbal game isn't up to par at all. Hopefully with some people's help I can improve my game. Many thanks in advance |
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| Author: | SKY007 [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:27 pm ] |
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just go out to some stupid bars or any other social gathering where you dont know anybody, order "juice or water" (because you dont drink) so at least you have a drink in your hand like everybody else, and talk to everybody (man or woman, ugly or babe). dont depend on a wing buddy, do it alone make a schedule to do it 4x per week, each session for at least 2 hours and maximum 4 hours. build it into your life like its your weekly work-out shedule, but this is your sarging schedule. change the locations after a while once you know everybody already (you need to practice on new unknown people remember) make sure that you have a max total idle/silence time of 5 minutes per hour, preferably 0 minutes. (if you are silent more than 5 minutes per hour , then tell yourself that you are a loser!) just talk to the first person you stumble upon at the entrance and keep stumbling into more. never stare or look around, it makes you silent. i dont think i have as much problems as you with conversations, but this is what i am doing now for practice about drinking: i am also a gymrat and never drink. but dont go out and pretend with beer or lie about it. just fucking explain them why you dont drink in a nice way (not a logical way, but in a way girls like it). it makes you stand out, just practice on a way to tell them. a way that tells something positive about you in an indirect way (never direct/bragging) you can also talk about what you know about health, diet and training etc (because this is your thing i guess), but tell this in a nice girly coaching way, not too logical, just like you care about them and are genuinly interested in helping them. works great to get the value down of a HB, tell her that she looks great but she should really work out (with you as personal trainer) than she will be even hotter. (its a NEG, without being offensive, you are actually nice to her). btw maybe if you are really uptight and too logical in your conversations and you have never ever drinked alcohol in your life, then try 1 or max 2 alcoholic drinks for 1 month each time in the beginning of your sarge, just to get to know how that is and stop it afterwards. just 1 month to get the experience. maybe you wont grow max muscle that month, but so what, you have the rest of your life to workout anyway man.... it also helps you to explain why you are not drinking after you've done it for 1 month, makes you less of a nerd (not saying that you are). |
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| Author: | GoodATthis [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:22 pm ] |
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at partys, people respond to the person with the most energy!!! |
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| Author: | Jay Wa [ Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:35 pm ] |
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Quote: at partys, people respond to the person with the most energy!!!
Second that. Quote: tell her that she looks great but she should really work out
Be very careful. Dangerous territory. ------------------- Do you have a problem meeting people at parties, or is it just women? If you can find some commonalities with some cool guys there, then that might just be your link to meeting some women as well. Typically, when I go into a party and I don't know hardly anybody (rare, but I really like doing it because its fun) I will befriend some cool guys first. So at least I have a clique to roll with. Then, when I meet women, I will introduce them to my "new friends". In turn, my "new friends" introduce me to some more women and social proofing begins! The fact that you don't drink does not have to be a negative. If you meet a woman who wants to take a shot with you, just be like, "allright, I odn't drink. So I'll take a shot of water while you take a shot of liquor. I bet I can drink more than you!" The idea is to make a joke of it. Then of course, if the woman is interested, she will probably ask you why you don't drink and you tell her. . .health, religion, morality, alcoholic parents, etc. |
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| Author: | The Bad Guy [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:12 am ] |
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I'm a health freak, but I still like to get a good buzz once in a while. In fact some of the best social networking I've done is when I was completely buzzed. You can't go wrong with Ginger Ale on rocks, it looks like a real drink. |
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| Author: | flawless [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:42 am ] |
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Even with a good opener, or clever neg, it is tough to keep the conversation going. What is there to talk about? I don't want to ask her questions which would raise her value and I don't want to talk about school, so what do I talk about? Thats the biggest issue. You only have one shot to make an impression and you have to be fast because some other guy will strike if you miss your shot. So how do I take that next step in my conversation? How do I get them from small talk and intro's to getting them on my lap and making out? |
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| Author: | The Bad Guy [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:16 am ] |
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Quote: Even with a good opener, or clever neg, it is tough to keep the conversation going. What is there to talk about? I don't want to ask her questions which would raise her value and I don't want to talk about school, so what do I talk about? Thats the biggest issue. You only have one shot to make an impression and you have to be fast because some other guy will strike if you miss your shot. So how do I take that next step in my conversation? How do I get them from small talk and intro's to getting them on my lap and making out?
I've never gone wrong with:"COME TAKE A SHOT WITH ME!" Fools mate is easy in party settings. In the past I'll befriend half the room, pawn off a 2 set to get the prize. The last time I didn't get a full close (she found out I made out with her best friend the same night) but that was because I got careless. What do I care! I made out with 3 chicks that night. In these settings women have the attention span of a squirrel, for the most part stick with SIMPLE stuff. I like to ask what her favorite alcoholic drink is and the neg hard. (I'm a jager guy) I would not do any routine that lasts longer than 60 seconds. |
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| Author: | flawless [ Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:35 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: Even with a good opener, or clever neg, it is tough to keep the conversation going. What is there to talk about? I don't want to ask her questions which would raise her value and I don't want to talk about school, so what do I talk about? Thats the biggest issue. You only have one shot to make an impression and you have to be fast because some other guy will strike if you miss your shot. So how do I take that next step in my conversation? How do I get them from small talk and intro's to getting them on my lap and making out?
I've never gone wrong with:"COME TAKE A SHOT WITH ME!" Fools mate is easy in party settings. In the past I'll befriend half the room, pawn off a 2 set to get the prize. The last time I didn't get a full close (she found out I made out with her best friend the same night) but that was because I got careless. What do I care! I made out with 3 chicks that night. In these settings women have the attention span of a squirrel, for the most part stick with SIMPLE stuff. I like to ask what her favorite alcoholic drink is and the neg hard. (I'm a jager guy) I would not do any routine that lasts longer than 60 seconds. |
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