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4) AMOGing.

Ok, certain "AMOG" techniques arnt totally bull shit. The entire concept, however, of "destroying AMOGs" is bullshit.

Real men, the ones with actual high value, the ones who are actual leaders of men, don't go around trying to put other men down and constantly working to "one up" them.

Real men build other men up and form friendships. Stop trying to "destroy" other men and make friends with them.

Warped, your writings show less understanding of social interactions than most 13 year olds.

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Warped, your writings show less understanding of social interactions than most 13 year olds.

I'd take that comment more seriously if it came from someone who wasn't still dealing with approach anxiety issues and still working on opening.

I don't mean that as an insult because we have all been there. Its just that at the point you are now, you have no idea what actually works.

What im saying is you sound like a keyboard jockey. Im honest on my level of experience.

Warped, maybe you oversimplify too much.

1) Flake Prevention and most "Text Game" in general.

I'll just throw the truth out there right now: There are no magic text you can send a girl who didn't like you that will make her suddenly become attracted to you. You can make a girl who had some attraction for you more interested in seeing you and thats about it.

How well a woman responds to your text is a direct correlation to how well you "gamed" her when you were face to face.

In truth, the more complicated and "game-y" you make your text the bigger the possibility you will fuck your chances of ever seeing her again up. Follow the KISS principal and keep your text simple. Your probably not going to fuck up your chances by texting too little but you may very well fuck up by texting to much and being too gimmicky.

Flake Prevention and most "Text Game" in general.

I'll just throw the truth out there right now: There are no magic text you can send a girl who didn't like you that will make her suddenly become attracted to you. You can make a girl who had some attraction for you more interested in seeing you and thats about it.

How well a woman responds to your text is a direct correlation to how well you "gamed" her when you were face to face.

In truth, the more complicated and "game-y" you make your text the bigger the possibility you will fuck your chances of ever seeing her again up. Follow the KISS principal and keep your text simple. Your probably not going to fuck up your chances by texting too little but you may very well fuck up by texting to much and being too gimmicky.

2) Sate.

You don't have to be in some special "state" to meet and seduce woman. If you have to rely on being in a certain emotional state to pick up woman you have a long way to go.

State has nothing to do with your personality, your ability to make emotional connections, your sexual escalation skills, or anything else that actually matters when seducing woman.

3) Boyfriend Destroyers.

Want to know the secret to stealing chicks from their boy friends?

- Being better than the BF

- Persistence

Thats about all it comes down too. There are no magic words that you can say that will magically make a woman want to break up with her BF and jump on your dick.

P.S. Try stealing a chick whos 100% in love with her man and happy as well. Its not going to happen and its certainly not worth your time.

5) Value.

I've written about this before. However, Rob Judge has written about it even better. Read about it here: [link]

6) Openers.

Lets just get right to it: There are no magic words that will make a woman jump on your dick from the open.

Notice a pattern regarding magic words?

Keep it simple and keep it authentic. The more gimmicky and "gamy-y" it is the more it will come back to bite you in the ass.

7) Creating Attraction.

Forget trying to create "attraction." Insead you should focus on arousing the woman.

Two types of arousal:

Mental/Emotional: This si where your amping up her emotions and making an emotional connection.

Physical Arousal: This is where your making her horny.

Focus on getting her aroused and attraction will take care of itself.

There's a reason this board has such a low signal:noise ratio.

You can get the girl more interested, and you can even aroused her through text, i disagree kind of disagree with this... Actually there are many advantages to text game, time, convenience, very difficult to fuck up, vs a live interaction, you make the women work by writing... Text to fuck is one of the most important parts of my game..

What happens with okupid, pof, craiglist, fling.com etc... disagree..

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:45 am ]
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1) Flake Prevention and most "Text Game" in general. I'll just throw the truth out there right now: There are no magic text you can send a girl who didn't like you that will make her suddenly become attracted to you. You can make a girl who had some attraction for you more interested in seeing you and thats about it. How well a woman responds to your text is a direct correlation to how well you "gamed" her when you were face to face. In truth, the more complicated and "game-y" you make your text the bigger the possibility you will fuck your chances of ever seeing her again up. Follow the KISS principal and keep your text simple. Your probably not going to fuck up your chances by texting too little but you may very well fuck up by texting to much and being too gimmicky. 2) Sate. You don't have to be in some special "state" to meet and seduce woman. If you have to rely on being in a certain emotional state to pick up woman you have a long way to go. State has nothing to do with your personality, your ability to make emotional connections, your sexual escalation skills, or anything else that actually matters when seducing woman. 3) Boyfriend Destroyers. Want to know the secret to stealing chicks from their boy friends? - Being better than the BF - Persistence Thats about all it comes down too. There are no magic words that you can say that will magically make a woman want to break up with her BF and jump on your dick. P.S. Try stealing a chick whos 100% in love with her man and happy as well. Its not going to happen and its certainly not worth your time. 4) AMOGing. Ok, certain "AMOG" techniques arnt totally bull shit. The entire concept, however, of "destroying AMOGs" is bullshit. Real men, the ones with actual high value, the ones who are actual leaders of men, don't go around trying to put other men down and constantly working to "one up" them. Real men build other men up and form friendships. Stop trying to "destroy" other men and make friends with them. 5) Value. I've written about this before. However, Rob Judge has written about it even better. Read about it here: http://www.tsbmag.com/2010/05/14/value- ... ttraction/ 6) Openers. Lets just get right to it: There are no magic words that will make a woman jump on your dick from the open. Notice a pattern regarding magic words? Keep it simple and keep it authentic. The more gimmicky and "gamy-y" it is the more it will come back to bite you in the ass. 7) Creating Attraction. Forget trying to create "attraction." Insead you should focus on arousing the woman. Two types of arousal: Mental/Emotional: This si where your amping up her emotions and making an emotional connection. Physical Arousal: This is where your making her horny. Focus on getting her aroused and attraction will take care of itself.

Author:	ParadisePua [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:58 am ]
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Thanks for clarifying ! learned a lot from the value 5) 1) - That was just what I needed to read. I waste too much time chatting and being complicated

Author:	Ezo [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:14 am ]
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Quote: 4) AMOGing. Ok, certain "AMOG" techniques arnt totally bull shit. The entire concept, however, of "destroying AMOGs" is bullshit. Real men, the ones with actual high value, the ones who are actual leaders of men, don't go around trying to put other men down and constantly working to "one up" them. Real men build other men up and form friendships. Stop trying to "destroy" other men and make friends with them. Amen bro

Author:	kasabi [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:20 pm ]
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1. Flake prevention: Connect and befriend the girl. Don't just extract her number. 5. Value ≠ attraction. Value ≠ bullshit. Value = benefit/price. Figure it out and utilize it for what it is. Above all, don't mistake this forum or some pick up blog written by a high school drop out for a dictionary. 6. Openers: Is it possible to open badly? Is it possible to totally fuck it up with wrong words from the very beginning? Yes it is. . . if so, don't you think that the complete opposite of this is also possible? 7. Attraction vs. Arousal: Become an attractive person. You'll attract others. I realize that most people here are young and it seems the whole World spins around your dick. Not so.

Author:	maleaco [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:19 pm ]
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I think too many people are too robotic -- wanting exact steps and processes for otherwise natural things. Just let go and have fun like you said.

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Author:	Cornishman [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:57 pm ]
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Warped, your writings show less understanding of social interactions than most 13 year olds. Im not flaming but consider learning more before you do all these "Im here to tell you whats right and whats wrong" posts. People see through it. . .

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:28 pm ]
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Quote: Warped, your writings show less understanding of social interactions than most 13 year olds. I'd take that comment more seriously if it came from someone who wasn't still dealing with approach anxiety issues and still working on opening. I don't mean that as an insult because we have all been there. Its just that at the point you are now, you have no idea what actually works.

Author:	Cornishman [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:35 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Warped, your writings show less understanding of social interactions than most 13 year olds. I'd take that comment more seriously if it came from someone who wasn't still dealing with approach anxiety issues and still working on opening. I don't mean that as an insult because we have all been there. Its just that at the point you are now, you have no idea what actually works. What im saying is you sound like a keyboard jockey. Im honest on my level of experience.

Author:	Ezo [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:56 pm ]
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Kids kids, dont make me come back there. Warped, maybe you oversimplify too much. Cornish, Warped has been around and has gained some knowledge. The two of you need to remember that none of us have all the answers, we are all still learning.

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:10 pm ]
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Quote: What im saying is you sound like a keyboard jockey. Im honest on my level of experience. You don't have enough experience to know what works and what doesn't. I'm not saying that to degrade you or to flame you, I'm just being honest. Back when I was first learning all this I practiced every one of those things in my list above. The more I went out the more I noticed a pattern though... I was meeting a ton of woman with BFs and so I woud whip out a "BF destroyer" on her. Never really worked so I gave them up. Funny enough, once I started getting really good, I started getting woman who had BFs yet I didn't use any BF destroyers. I had simply evolved to the point where I was cooler than the majority of BFs the woman I was meeting had. Over time I've met many other talented seducers, many who are better than myself and they have came to the same conclusions about BF destroyers. I also noticed a pattern with my text game. I used to craft the "perfect" text messages. I had open loops, I made them invest, I "demonstrated value" blah, blah, blah. However, I noticed that the only time all this fancy shit every worked in my favor is when I had a solid interaction with a woman to begin with. I decided to experiment and just make my text game simple and normal. My results actually went up slightly but it still mostly depended on how well the interaction went with the girl when I was face to face with her. State was a BIG one for me. I was going out and getting inconsistent success. When I was in "state" I did fine however when I wasn't I did horrible. Finally I met a local guy who was really good and told me to just forget about the whole concept of state. I thought he was nuts but I gave it a try. Turned out that the less worried about "state" I was, the more I was just able to be in align with my natural mood and work from there. My results went way up. Its goes like this for everything on my list. I discovered all these things from experience. Quote: Warped, maybe you oversimplify too much. I think your on to something here. What I need to do is go into more depth and explain my points/beliefs much clearer.

Author:	SmoothOp [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:07 pm ]
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Quote: 1) Flake Prevention and most "Text Game" in general. I'll just throw the truth out there right now: There are no magic text you can send a girl who didn't like you that will make her suddenly become attracted to you. You can make a girl who had some attraction for you more interested in seeing you and thats about it. How well a woman responds to your text is a direct correlation to how well you "gamed" her when you were face to face. In truth, the more complicated and "game-y" you make your text the bigger the possibility you will fuck your chances of ever seeing her again up. Follow the KISS principal and keep your text simple. Your probably not going to fuck up your chances by texting too little but you may very well fuck up by texting to much and being too gimmicky. This for the most part is true and I have lost interest from women for becoming too needy/over texting while trying to create some comfort. But I have also screwd up first interactions and texted or called my way to actually get the girl more comfortable to the idea of going for a drink. It all depends on the situation, mine was I got the girl to like me a lot physically during the pick up but I came off like a player. Took about a week of texting to get her to feel comfortable enough to chill. Anyways, I would say this is 90% correct 100% of the time

Author:	Cornishman [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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There's a reason this board has such a low signal:noise ratio.

Author:	skills360 [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:42 pm ]
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Quote: Flake Prevention and most "Text Game" in general. I'll just throw the truth out there right now: There are no magic text you can send a girl who didn't like you that will make her suddenly become attracted to you. You can make a girl who had some attraction for you more interested in seeing you and thats about it. You can get the girl more interested, and you can even aroused her through text, i disagree kind of disagree with this... Actually there are many advantages to text game, time, convenience, very difficult to fuck up, vs a live interaction, you make the women work by writing... Text to fuck is one of the most important parts of my game.. Quote: How well a woman responds to your text is a direct correlation to how well you "gamed" her when you were face to face. What happens with okupid, pof, craiglist, fling.com etc... disagree.. Quote: In truth, the more complicated and "game-y" you make your text the bigger the possibility you will fuck your chances of ever seeing her again up. Follow the KISS principal and keep your text simple. Your probably not going to fuck up your chances by texting too little but you may very well fuck up by texting to much and being too gimmicky. texting a lot is good and works if you know what you are doing... Gimmicky specially the community text game weak... Quote: 2) Sate. You don't have to be in some special "state" to meet and seduce woman. If you have to rely on being in a certain emotional state to pick up woman you have a long way to go. some special state correct, but some specific moods and energy helps tons.. Quote: State has nothing to do with your personality, your ability to make emotional connections, your sexual escalation skills, or anything else that actually matters when seducing woman. true but some moods, energy levels help as i said before.. Quote: 3) Boyfriend Destroyers. Want to know the secret to stealing chicks from their boy friends? - Being better than the BF - Persistence Thats about all it comes down too. There are no magic words that you can say that will magically make a woman want to break up with her BF and jump on your dick. P.S. Try stealing a chick whos 100% in love with her man and happy as well. Its not going to happen and its certainly not worth your time. excellent! girls that are happy and in love will not cheat, is a waste of time...However if you can somehow mentally or physically aroused a girl with a boyfriend that is not completely happy the way to go. Quote: 4) AMOGing. Ok, certain "AMOG" techniques arnt totally bull shit. The entire concept, however, of "destroying AMOGs" is bullshit. Real men, the ones with actual high value, the ones who are actual leaders of men, don't go around trying to put other men down and constantly working to "one up" them. Real men build other men up and form friendships. Stop trying to "destroy" other men and make friends with them. Excellent! amoging is the stupidest shit i ever heard... Quote: 5) Value. I've written about this before. However, Rob Judge has written about it even better. Read about it here: [link] i think there are some qualities/things etc.. that make some dudes more attractive, unique, different vs. other dudes, or some dudes less attractive vs other dudes... Quote: 6) Openers. Lets just get right to it: There are no magic words that will make a woman jump on your dick from the open. Notice a pattern regarding magic words? Keep it simple and keep it authentic. The more gimmicky and "gamy-y" it is the more it will come back to bite you in the ass. Excellent, openers are overrated just approach and try to escalate asap. Quote: 7) Creating Attraction. Forget trying to create "attraction." Insead you should focus on arousing the woman. Two types of arousal: Mental/Emotional: This si where your amping up her emotions and making an emotional connection. Physical Arousal: This is where your making her horny. Focus on getting her aroused and attraction will take care of itself. This need to be tattoo on everyone's' dicks...

Author:	skills360 [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:01 pm ]
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Quote: There's a reason this board has such a low signal:noise ratio. cornishman the best thing to do is, to point out were you disagree, cool dude! and then give your own theories on why, Why not point out were you disagree and showing somehow how you would do things different, what have you use with success etc... Cool dude! with that being said and is not an attack on wm, is that there are many ways to fuck a girl, there is not a right or wrong way... And believe it or not i think everything works, is just execution, level of comfort, efficiency... Just because Rob says is white, does not mean is whity, just because wm says is yellow does not mean is yellow, just because skills360, or whoever says is so, there is not an absolute way, women are different... there is not one size fits all method. The best example for this i would say as an analogy is football, some coaches believe running the ball and strong defense, some believe west cost offense, some east cost offense... Some quaterback do better in some systems some on others etc... love you all!

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Author:	SmoothOp [ Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:52 pm ]
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Quote: You can get the girl more interested, and you can even aroused her through text, i disagree kind of disagree with this... Actually there are many advantages to text game, time, convenience, very difficult to fuck up, vs a live interaction, you make the women work by writing... Text to fuck is one of the most important parts of my game.. I think Warped meant grabbing the number just to grab the number and not actually getting the girl interested in you. Tons of guys get numbers with zero outcome and put in a shit load of work to make the girl attracted to them. The problem is the girl only can see the number and message and has no emotional connection to a human being. He was saying that if she doesn't have attraction your fucked. The women you speak of had attraction for you. Quote: What happens with okupid, pof, craiglist, fling.com etc... disagree.. I think this is different. I was thinking about that right when I read the opening post. dating sites give a totally different dynamic as in the girl is willing to give you a chance as long as your good looking in your pictures. These girls will look at your profile and think "Oh he's cute" and then will read your "personality". They give you that opening to be able to seduce them.