PUA Forum :: TV degrading PUA's...again.

The only guy that had a chance was James Marshall. He didn't use any cheesy lines. He had good posture, was a good distance from her , had her engaged and if you observe her body language, you will see as it progressed her arm crossed over the neutral line closer to him ( the only positive sub-conscious reaction from her out of all of them) She was kinda into him. He was doing well until the other staff got involved and exposed him.

The asian guy's line was a good opener but he didn't fit the part. Sure that stuff will work on college girls or club chicks, but that was a woman of class and elegance, a public figure. In her 30's. His wardrobe was horrible for the situation.

All the other guys were pure gimmicks and seriously weak.

True pick up artist adapt to the environment. Theses guys knew exactly the women they were approaching( in advance) Yet non seem prepared.

Sure they had very limited time, and the conditions were horrible but how can they call themselves the cream of the crop.

If I were personally in that position, I would of completely flipped everything around by actually trying to pick her up ( the host not the actress she was portraying)

Here's my 30 seconds. (dressed in designer custom suit no tie)

Hi my name is SA ( kissed her hand) I have a confession to tell you, I am not James Wolf ( or whatever the dudes name is) I actually bribed him with a 1000 dollars to let me come out here in his place, and trust I am by no means wealthy.

I simply have had a crush on your for quite awhile, ever since that episode where you did blah blah blah. ( i would of watched a few in advance and found a good one to bring up) I saw this opportunity to come out here and actually ask you on a date, I could not resist. Life is too short. I am not a stalker nor a crazy man, by any means. You just really touched me in that episode and ever since i have found you to be an absolutely fascinating woman. If you would do me the honor of escorting you out for dinner. I would love the opportunity to show you my worth both as a man and a human being.

We are on television and I don't expect much in reply. But here is my card. Perhaps you can contact me when there is less pressure and prying eyes.

By the way, you are even more beautiful in person. I look forward to hearing from you.

Ciao.

I just think they picked these guys out of a lucky packet and
asked them if they want to appear on television...anything
to get noticed I guess. I'm sure they did ask Mystery,
Style and RJ to come on tv again...but judging from
what RJ endured from Dr Phil a while back, and what crap
Mystery and Style had to go through on
Jimmy Kimmel LIVE I don't blame them for
not doing televised appearances
anymore.

Are we trying to ´´think´´ that the PUA community is really THAT good and THAT powerful????
Look at these guys,they should be some kind of ´´master´´PUA ´´ and they behave like that,IMO only the asian with mohican hairs was a little better,the other guys were from bad to worse and im not talking about skills or what,im talking about STYLE ....they were complete morons,oh god.
Do we think the avarage ´´wanna be pua´´ is better than them? just look at the forum..........

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Yes to the first and yes to the second.

That asian dude is a student from Adam Lyons so he
learnt direct game under him, but he did it in a very
different style on TV which I really wasn't expecting from him.

If you think you can do better why don't you go
on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys
tried and to me thats a win.

Quote:

If you think you can do better why don't you go
on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys
tried and to me thats a win.

Quote:

If you think you can do better why don't you go
on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys
tried and to me thats a win.

This is very true, they at least had the confidence to go on live tv and try. They also are in the position to be invited to do so. So they get props for that.

I am still disappointed at what I seen.

Author:	Chai [ Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:18 pm ]
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Hey guys I saw this video on youtube and I knew I had to post this on here, it's pathetic what their doing. Sorry, here's the sub-plot: A national television station has asked 5 PUA's to try and "pick-up" one of the female TV presenters on the show. Just watch it and give your thoughts. The lady is intentionally acting like a bitch and not giving a shit towards any of the PUA's. She's not even taking it seriously...so why do guru's go on the air and do this regardless?? You may recognize one of Adam Lyon's student and a few others... Just watch it and take note 1:23, you'll see what I mean. - Chai http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPlB71q9 ... AAAAAAAAAA

Author:	Hank Moody [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:19 am ]
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well first of all. all apart from the Chinese guy were terrible. first 2 were just creepy. my girlfriend said she would have left the bar if they would have hit on her (bit over dramatic but hey) the second guy thought he was getting her to qualify herself but all he was doing was using his looks and qualifying himself to her that he is good looking. pick up is NOT about using your looks. its about using skills in cold reading, communication, building attraction etc. i know you cant use real techniques in 30 seconds but they came across as though it was just about cheesy "pick up lines". but then again what do you expect. they are trying to spread the word that they exist to people who have little to no idea what pick up is. so in that sense they are doing good marketing for themselves and the community in general.

Author:	Seville [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:00 am ]
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First off, I propose that local PUAs in that area find her on the street and game her for real. Not in front of cameras. Next, no body can expect actual results if she is intentionally shutting them down. Finally, one of them should have said "Pardon me. You are a beautiful girl but your attitude is not doing your looks justice. And I don't go for girls who are ugly on the inside" then dick slapped her and yelled "YEYEAH BITCH!!!!!!!" then walked off stage!

Author:	skills360 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:20 am ]
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they are a scam, they suck! embarrassing they are probably virgins... their game is soooooooooo weak...

Author:	Don Juan 89 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:41 am ]
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HAHA made me laugh tonight. Basically just the guys who take routines and the PUA thing too far. So many guys develop themselves to become PUA robots that 'cannot compute' everyday life. Personally the only thing I dislike about the PUA community is this idea that everything that makes an attractive guy has to be planned and routine. If you're confident and attractive you dont need to make yourself look or sound like a cornball.

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Author:	lolaskate [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:14 am ]
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I think the Asian guy with the mohawk did alright. I mean, everyone knows these people are trying to find any excuse to shut them down, because clearly a bitch is a bitch. He doesn't give any opportunity for that to happen. Playful, and clever, with that last line. I like it. But that vince guy. Ain't he calling himself king of pick up? FOR SHAME lol.

Author:	Efildrah [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:32 am ]
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It's simple. Do you pick-up a girl that expects to be ,,picked-up'' ??? Ever? And not by 1 but by 5 of them...she has to act like a bitch, otherwise she would lose her social value...She did great, but most of them didn't even try to adapt to the situation, and that is why people dislike their game. It doesn't seem flexible

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:49 am ]
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The only guy that had a chance was James Marshall. He didn't use any cheesy lines. He had good posture, was a good distance from her , had her engaged and if you observe her body language, you will see as it progressed her arm crossed over the neutral line closer to him ( the only positive sub-conscious reaction from her out of all of them) She was kinda into him. He was doing well until the other staff got involved and exposed him. The asian guy's line was a good opener but he didn't fit the part. Sure that stuff will work on college girls or club chicks, but that was a woman of class and elegance, a public figure. In her 30's. His wardrobe was horrible for the situation. All the other guys were pure gimmicks and seriously weak. True pick up artist adapt to the environment. Theses guys knew exactly the women they were approaching( in advance) Yet non seem prepared. Sure they had very limited time, and the conditions were horrible but how can they call themselves the cream of the crop. If I were personally in that position, I would of completely flipped everything around by actually trying to pick her up ( the host not the actress she was portraying) Here's my 30 seconds. (dressed in designer custom suit no tie) Hi my name is SA ( kissed her hand) I have a confession to tell you, I am not James Wolf ( or whatever the dudes name is) I actually bribed him with a 1000 dollars to let me come out here in his place, and trust I am by no means wealthy. I simply have had a crush on your for quite awhile, ever since that episode where you did blah blah blah. ( i would of watched a few in advance and found a good one to bring up) I saw this opportunity to come out here and actually ask you on a date, I could not resist. Life is too short. I am not a stalker nor a crazy man, by any means. You just really touched me in that episode and ever since i have found you to be an absolutely fascinating woman. If you would do me the honor of escorting you out for dinner. I would love the opportunity to show you my worth both as a man and a human being. We are on television and I don't expect much in reply. But here is my card. Perhaps you can contact me when there is less pressure and prying eyes. By the way, you are even more beautiful in person. I look forward to hearing from you. Ciao.

Author:	izumi [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:20 pm ]
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Quote: The only guy that had a chance was James Marshall. He didn't use any cheesy lines. He had good posture, was a good distance from her , had her engaged and if you observe her body language, you will see as it progressed her arm crossed over the neutral line closer to him ( the only positive sub-conscious reaction from her out of all of them) She was kinda into him. He was doing well until the other staff got involved and exposed him. The asian guy's line was a good opener but he didn't fit the part. Sure that stuff will work on college girls or club chicks, but that was a woman of class and elegance, a public figure. In her 30's. His wardrobe was horrible for the situation. All the other guys were pure gimmicks and seriously weak. True pick up artist adapt to the environment. Theses guys knew exactly the women they were approaching( in advance) Yet non seem prepared. Sure they had very limited time, and the conditions were horrible but how can they call themselves the cream of the crop. If I were personally in that position, I would of completely flipped everything around by actually trying to pick her up ( the host not the actress she was portraying) Here's my 30 seconds. (dressed in designer custom suit no tie) Hi my name is SA ( kissed her hand) I have a confession to tell you, I am not James Wolf ( or whatever the dudes name is) I actually bribed him with a 1000 dollars to let me come out here in his place, and trust I am by no means wealthy. I simply have had a crush on your for quite awhile, ever since that episode where you did blah blah blah. ( i would of watched a few in advance and found a good one to bring up) I saw this opportunity to come out here and actually ask you on a date, I could not resist. Life is too short. I am not a stalker nor a crazy man, by any means. You just really touched me in that episode and ever since i have found you to be an absolutely fascinating woman. If you would do me the honor of escorting you out for dinner. I would love the opportunity to show you my worth both as a man and a human being. We are on television and I don't expect much in reply. But here is my card. Perhaps you can contact me when there is less pressure and prying eyes. By the way, you are even more beautiful in person. I look forward to hearing from you. Ciao. If your sooo cool,go on television and earn millions doing pick up,good luck. If you loudmouth are really soooo good, try to do something useful,post videos of your ´´skill´´ show and teach us ,your so ´´amazing´´ pick up skills,instead of staying in this forum and blabbering on how good you are,how many womans crave to have sex with you and so on

Author:	Chai [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:50 pm ]
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I just think they picked these guys out of a lucky packet and asked them if they want to appear on television...anything to get noticed I guess. I'm sure they did ask Mystery, Style and RJ to come on tv again...but judging from what RJ endured from Dr Phil a while back, and what crap Mystery and Style had to go through on Jimmy Kimmel LIVE I don't blame them for not doing televised appearances anymore.

Author:	izumi [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:04 pm ]
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Quote: I just think they picked these guys out of a lucky packet and asked them if they want to appear on television...anything to get noticed I guess. I'm sure they did ask Mystery, Style and RJ to come on tv again...but judging from what RJ endured from Dr Phil a while back, and what crap Mystery and Style had to go through on Jimmy Kimmel LIVE I don't blame them for not doing televised appearances anymore. Are we trying to ´´think´´ that the PUA community is really THAT good and THAT powerful???? Look at these guys,they should be some kind of ´´master´´PUA ´´ and they behave like that,IMO only the asian with mohican hairs was a little better,the other guys were from bad to worse and im not talking about skills or what,im talking about STYLE ....they were complete morons,oh god. Do we think the avarage ´´wanna be pua´´ is better than them? just look at the forum..........

Author:	Chai [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:16 pm ]
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Quote: Are we trying to ´´think´´ that the PUA community is really THAT good and THAT powerful???? Look at these guys,they should be some kind of ´´master´´PUA ´´ and they behave like that,IMO only the asian with mohican hairs was a little better,the other guys were from bad to worse and im not talking about skills or what,im talking about STYLE ....they were complete morons,oh god. Do we think the avarage ´´wanna be pua´´ is better than them? just look at the forum.......... Yes to the first and yes to the second. That asian dude is a student from Adam Lyons so he learnt direct game under him, but he did it in a very different style on TV which I really wasn't expecting from him. If you think you can do better why don't you go on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys tried and to me thats a win.

Author:	izumi [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:37 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Are we trying to ´´think´´ that the PUA community is really THAT good and THAT powerful???? Look at these guys,they should be some kind of ´´master´´PUA ´´ and they behave like that,IMO only the asian with mohican hairs was a little better,the other guys were from bad to worse and im not talking about skills or what,im talking about STYLE ....they were complete morons,oh god. Do we think the avarage ´´wanna be pua´´ is better than them? just look at the forum.......... Yes to the first and yes to the second. That asian dude is a student from Adam Lyons so he learnt direct game under him, but he did it in a very different style on TV which I really wasn't expecting from him. If you think you can do better why don't you go on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys tried and to me thats a win. Yes,i really appreciate the effort they did,in skills they are a lot better than me,have a lot more experience and courage that i dont have,and we have to face the truth,theyr ´´prestation´´ was really poor,what i´m trying to say is that i REALLY REALLY think the seduction community is going that way,we´re selling our pride in exchange of some pussy,we want to fix EVERYTHING,we´re turning in low-level humans and when we go to clubs sometimes we ´´win´´ a ONS with some easy girl,that makes you happy??? yes,but how long does that feeling last??? it desappears very quickly.... I want to say,the PUA ´´way´´ doesnt solve our inner issues,it just give us some temporary relief,when that relief goes away the issue is still inside ourselves,instead of solving our real problems we prepfr the ´´easy´´ way, go out and ´´seduce´´ some low level woman

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:53 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: If you think you can do better why don't you go on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys tried and to me thats a win. This is very true, they at least had the confidence to go on live tv and try. They also are in the position to be invited to do so. So they get props for that. I am still disappointed at what I seen.

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Author:	izumi [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:02 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Quote: If you think you can do better why don't you go on the air and give it a shot? Atleast these guys tried and to me thats a win. This is very true, they at least had the confidence to go on live tv and try. They also are in the position to be invited to do so. So they get props for that. I am still disappointed at what I seen. I´m avarege in ´´game´´ and with womens,they are a lot better and more braver than me,they´re the so called ´´master´´ PUA....am i right???? If that´s the level of a ´´master´´ ,they reflect the community all together,sad but true,the ´´performance´´ was quite sad,i´m very happy that i´ve never attended a bootcamp,and never bought a book from them....