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Author:  DDRQ [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Teaching a student. - where do I start
Okay First off I'm not getting paid for this. Basically I'm the only guy in my class(computer science) who does sport and doesn't own any video games. I didn't know anyone in university and I don't stay in a dorm so I meet most people in class or at parties. But during the day I am mostly in class. Where I have a huge group of friends that are only girls. Which is nice, But I at least want some guy friends as you can imagine.

Okay this one guy I started talking to came out of a relationship of 3 years and he is basically as AFC as you get. He has noticed me with the girls and came to me asking how I do it and so on. I am feeling sorry for the dude so I want to help him. But I have never really taught anyone. I don't want to just give him the forum website as this will only lead to information overload. And will make learning game less fun. I also don't want to teach him my pickup method as It feels as if I am forcing what works for me onto him. The only thing I think I can help with is AA.

He still has a "movie perception"(as I like to call it) of girls. So should I start with inner or outer game?
Author:  Homer Simpson [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:16 pm ]
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teach him the basic/the fundimentals. Basic theroy and stuff like that.
That way you are not forcing him to do the stuff that works for you and not for others, like you said.
Author:  zebraG [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Teaching a student. - where do I start
Quote:
He still has a "movie perception"(as I like to call it) of girls.
Ha! Never heard it said that clearly before but so true of so many guys!

There are various things I was going to suggest (like opening sets with him and then dropping out of the conversation for a bit with a fake phonecall to let him do his thing before coming back in) but I'm not nearly experienced enough at this to offer advice.
Author:  DDRQ [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:49 pm ]
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I can help him overcome AA. But I think I will basically explain everything to him and let him choose which style he likes. Still as with everything I must start with the basics.
Author:  kasabi [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:31 am ]
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All "game" amounts to:

1. Open.
2. Conversation/routine.
3. Close

Show him how you do it. Pick out a few threads you like from this forum and categorize these threads to one of the three categories outlined above.

1. Discuss.

2. Go out.

3. Demonstrate.

4. Wing.

5. Have fun.
Author:  Cornishman [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:45 am ]
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Rule number one: Don't tell people about pick-up. Ever.

Explanation? The community has many pre-conceived perceptions of being weird, nerdy, fucked up and loser-ville.

I would have thought that, if it wasn't for the fact that the guy who told me about is actually one of the coolest people in a big social group (he's earned his stripes to be an influential poster if he did forums).

When I mentioned it to a few people who gave me the big "I'm terrible with women" things and how they really want to be able to speak to girls i like (these people not necessarily bad with women either) they rejected it the next day.

It's a long, long, long list of what friends tend to be like about it. Keep it to yourself.

Just tell him to go speak to women and chat them up, he will probably get the level of skill/lifestyle he wants from doing just that :)

AA can be dealt with without telling him about the community too.
Author:  kasabi [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:10 am ]
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Not sure if ^this applies. The OP mentioned that his friend already sees him as being 'good with women'. This is different from advice offered by another 'aspiring pua'.

I've only pointed this forum out to friends who've hung with me long enough to ask, "WTF . . . how?"

Overall, the older friends/associates are much more receptive to the idea because at this point in their lives, they: 1. They really don't care if his 'buddy' calls him a nerd. 2. They know by now that EVERYTHING requires Goals, strategy, effort, and knowledge.
Author:  Cornishman [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:47 pm ]
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Quote:
Not sure if ^this applies. The OP mentioned that his friend already sees him as being 'good with women'. This is different from advice offered by another 'aspiring pua'.

I've only pointed this forum out to friends who've hung with me long enough to ask, "WTF . . . how?"

Overall, the older friends/associates are much more receptive to the idea because at this point in their lives, they: 1. They really don't care if his 'buddy' calls him a nerd. 2. They know by now that EVERYTHING requires Goals, strategy, effort, and knowledge.

Very true, and we all know how wise you are so I'm not going against what you said but how good? Personally you have to be very good to be able to pull off mentioning PUA to people. If you really are that good then the rest below doesn't apply :)

People will generally assume you think you are better with women than they are.

That's the real reason I think people find it 'weird' and if you can't show it off well and smoothly in a positive light then that person will think PUA is a load of bullshit. And this would go against helping DDRQ's friend.

Imagine reading The Game but it was Style being terrible and failing at it, PUA wouldn't of even blipped on the radar!

However, if you actually see/get him chatting up girls or at least opening and he ENJOYS it all and the process then sure, introduce him to the community.
Author:  johnchangmai [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:05 pm ]
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Hi

Firstly find our what your angle is here. Do you like him and really want to help him out.
The first question you should ask is.
Just because i'm cool and have game, SHOULD i share it.
Just because you can teach him, SHOULD YOU.

I would stick to what others have pointed out.
Keep it simple.

1. Open
2. routine
3. close

You might end up being this guys Alpha Guru. BEWARE

I have been in this position a few times.
You will end up teaching this guy your style until he starts challenging you or getting upset when things go wrong and blaming you.

To recap.

THINK...................don't drink and drive.
Don't be friend and guru.
Author:  Sonicvega [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:25 pm ]
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When dealing with just one student the nice thing is you can tailor his lessons. First and foremost focus on his strengths and help him cross over those strengths to his pick up game.Even AFC have some strengths as intelligence or being organized . At the end of the day we all tailor our pick up style . When i am helping someone start i try to build up their confidence first. Ill take them with me open up sets in front of them give them a warm intro such as hey let me introduce you to so and so he is the smartest guy in my computer class. After he realizes women are not so scary and he can kind of see where he will eventually be able to find a style that incorporates his personality he will be open to your teachings .
Author:  DDRQ [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:07 am ]
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I am not planning on ever telling anyone about PUA. It is hard to convey the change PUA makes in words without sounding weird.If he asked me where I have learned all this stuff, I'll just ignore it.

I have already helped him opened sets. He is doing 'okay' I guess which is better than last week where he didn't talk to women at all. I have a friend who works as a stylist to which I will introduce him as soon as he gets good with opening. I am doing this just to show him that he could open without worrying about looks.
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