PUA Forum :: Does PU make you unhappier?

The happiness I derive from PU isn't the end result. It's about what I've learned to better myself. The confidence and change in character that I've developed is completely natural and has helped me not only talk to women, but forge long-lasting friendships with both genders. As a business student, it has also helped me with networking and overall demonstrating that I am not going to be just another middle class worker once I graduate. It has changed me for the better and has opened my eyes to new philosophies. Without reservation, I can say I am in the prime of my life and look forward to seeing what happens in the future.

It's made me happier in the sense that I now have a dating/sex life and no longer have to worry about going years without even going on a date.

It's made me unhappy in the sense that everything I thought I knew about women and relationships was completely wrong and I truly question whether or not a happy marriage or LTR is even possible due to the realization that we're really just shaved down monkies and that sweet little princess will ditch you the second she finds someone with more value.

Like anything - there are positives and negatives.

I started wondering hat PU is really about? Is it about a perfect formula of success, or is it about being you without apology, with confidence and taking action?

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I started wondering hat PU is really about? Is it about a perfect formula of success, or is it about being you without apology, with confidence and taking action?

I think this is it for me.
The way it makes me sadder in life is that I don't fall in love head over heels any more. I miss that feeling sometimes. It can happen for a short while, but it vanishes pretty quickly. [/b]

It sure is a lot better then having that terrible oneitis that completely mind fucks you.

Author:	$uave [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:10 am ]
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A while ago I watched a movie which was called "After death"-it was a 1998 Japanese movie about people going to a special place where they had to choose one memory from their live they wanted to keep forever. Most people chose childhood, or times they were with their loved ones. Some chose a moment when they came to understanding something about themselves which made them very happy. This movie had a great impact on me. I've stopped PUing quite a while ago. Some random pickups here and there and that was about it. Looking at my actions in the past, I found myself repeating lines I heard somewhere or asking myself what I should do, or how I should act in particular situations. I remember back in a day looking at what time did the text arrive, to wait proper amount of time to respond without looking needy. For some reason, I recently started looking down at myself when I was doing that. It was wacky. Not manly. I started wondering hat PU is really about? Is it about a perfect formula of success, or is it about being you without apology, with confidence and taking action? At least with regards to LTR. The way I see it, I want my girl to love me.. If you don't show her who you are she won't even have a chance to do so, and if she does, that'll last for quite a while. When you're you(which is often times hard to understand what that "you" means, because we're often times so deep into acting as the personas we try to be that we forget who we are) so again, when you're you a girl will either like you or not. If she doesn't like you-fine, you're not a donut to be liked by everyone, but if she does-it'll last. I guess this just going back to natural/scripted game, but this time I'd like to ask your opinion, not on which game is more effective, but which game makes you happier, and gives you more fulfilling relationships in your life? I'm planning on coming back to PU. This time probably as natural/caveman. I'll probably start a FR or smth.

Author:	Snarg [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:44 am ]
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The happiness I derive from PU isn't the end result. It's about what I've learned to better myself. The confidence and change in character that I've developed is completely natural and has helped me not only talk to women, but forge long-lasting friendships with both genders. As a business student, it has also helped me with networking and overall demonstrating that I am not going to be just another middle class worker once I graduate. It has changed me for the better and has opened my eyes to new philosophies. Without reservation, I can say I am in the prime of my life and look forward to seeing what happens in the future.

Author:	SKSpua [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:07 am ]
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It's made me happier in the sense that I now have a dating/sex life and no longer have to worry about going years without even going on a date. It's made me unhappy in the sense that everything I thought I knew about women and relationships was completely wrong and I truly question whether or not a happy marriage or LTR is even possible due to the realization that we're really just shaved down monkies and that sweet little princess will ditch you the second she finds someone with more value. Like anything - there are positives and negatives.

Author:	TygaNasty [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:00 am ]
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Living life without women is depressing. - Gambler It's true. So if you had very few to no women before PUA, I guarantee it made you happier.

Author:	$uave [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:40 am ]
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Quote: The happiness I derive from PU isn't the end result. It's about what I've learned to better myself. The confidence and change in character that I've developed is completely natural and has helped me not only talk to women, but forge long-lasting friendships with both genders. As a business student, it has also helped me with networking and overall demonstrating that I am not going to be just another middle class worker once I graduate. It has changed me for the better and has opened my eyes to new philosophies. Without reservation, I can say I am in the prime of my life and look forward to seeing what happens in the future. I agree. I saw a lot of positive(or at least I think positive) effects similar to those you described, but I was talking about happiness with regard to dating life. Quote: It's made me happier in the sense that I now have a dating/sex life and no longer have to worry about going years without even going on a date. It's made me unhappy in the sense that everything I thought I knew about women and relationships was completely wrong and I truly question whether or not a happy marriage or LTR is even possible due to the realization that we're really just shaved down monkies and that sweet little princess will ditch you the second she finds someone with more value. Like anything - there are positives and negatives. thanks dude. That's very similar to my opinion about PU, but don't you think such a negative attitude can end in hermit-type of life?(not smth I want) Again, this whole relationship thing seems a lot more complicated than community makes it seem to be imo.

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Author:	skills360 [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:43 pm ]
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Happiness is from within, attitude, and perception play a big role... Pua is being the best man possible that you can be... Part of being the best man possible is having the right skills to meet and attract women, vs creeping the fuck out of them...Natural game is the shit! sources of properly learn similar stuff that naturals do: rsd, zan perion, vin dicarlo, 60 yoc, aaron Sleazy, rob something....

Author:	Txacoli [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Quote: I started wondering hat PU is really about? Is it about a perfect formula of success, or is it about being you without apology, with confidence and taking action? I think this is it for me. The way it makes me sadder in life is that I don't fall in love head over heels any more. I miss that feeling sometimes. It can happen for a short while, but it vanishes pretty quickly. [/b]

Author:	Defy [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:10 pm ]
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Quote: The happiness I derive from PU isn't the end result. It's about what I've learned to better myself. The confidence and change in character that I've developed is completely natural and has helped me not only talk to women, but forge long-lasting friendships with both genders. As a business student, it has also helped me with networking and overall demonstrating that I am not going to be just another middle class worker once I graduate. It has changed me for the better and has opened my eyes to new philosophies. Without reservation, I can say I am in the prime of my life and look forward to seeing what happens in the future. This.

Author:	TygaNasty [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:21 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: I started wondering hat PU is really about? Is it about a perfect formula of success, or is it about being you without apology, with confidence and taking action? I think this is it for me. The way it makes me sadder in life is that I don't fall in love head over heels any more. I miss that feeling sometimes. It can happen for a short while, but it vanishes pretty quickly. [/b] It sure is a lot better then having that terrible oneitis that completely mind fucks you.

Author:	Ezo [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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Does knowing martial arts make me a bad guy? No punching people in the face does. PU is one of many ways to better your life, good or bad depends on how you use it.

Author:	Txacoli [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:03 am ]
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Quote: It sure is a lot better then having that terrible oneitis that completely mind fucks you. Yup, sure is!

Author:	Deadeyexx [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:33 pm ]
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Nobody wants to change. We would all like to "do our thing" and get what we're looking for as a result. Unfortunately, very few have the right talents to do that. A lot of guys become unhappy when they realize that being themselves, even as more confident versions, isn't good enough. We wear costumes (fashion) and recite emotionless bullshit books tell us that works. Picking apart interactions that are supposed to be fun. All in hopes that it might make sense someday on a gut level. Yes, pick-up can make you quite unhappy depending how different from a natural you are. You do gain a lot of valuable exposure though. A year down the road, even if you've dropped pick-up like a hot potato, you'll have learned lessons that have sunken in you don't even realize. Then you can be happy being yourself and get better results too.

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