PUA Forum :: PUA Overdose? Empty your cup.

I just posted this to my Zen PUA blog and hope that you'll find it helpful:
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A professor visited a Zen Master, hoping to learn about Zen.

"May I get you some tea?" asked the Master, showing the Professor into his den and offering him a seat. "Yes, thank you, I'd appreciate that," said the Professor.

The Master poured the tea from a large teapot into the cup, and continued pouring the tea as the cup filled and ran over the side onto the table, and then onto the floor. The Master continued pouring the tea. The Professor finally jumped and yelled, "STOP, the cup is overfull, the tea is pouring all over the floor." The Master put the teapot down, and said to the Professor, "Before I can teach you about Zen, you must first empty your cup."

So first off, we've learned a valuable lesson. If you visit a Zen Master, wear your galoshes. But seriously now folks, what's this story all about? I see many people who are new to PUA take the same route. Often they start off reading “The Game”. They want to take the same path that Neil Strauss did, they want to learn every style of PUA. Soon they are reading every eBook and listening to every MP3 out there. This causes two problems. First, when do they have time to practice what they read? Second, once they have the chance, which style should they use? Some people end up with the full cup syndrome, there’s no room left to learn because the cup is already full, or overflowing.

So how does one empty the cup? I find meditation extremely helpful in returning me to “beginner’s mind.” This is the state of not knowing, just being. Forget everything you’ve learned and just be in this moment, totally free and without preconception or judgment. From that place of total freedom you can do anything. Even approach that HB10 over there.

There is a great deal to be learned out there, but don’t let it overwhelm you. Keep an open mind, and try to be spontaneous in your approach. Leave room in the cup for new experiences so you continue to experiment and learn.

Author:	snubby (aka Zen) [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:26 am ]
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I just posted this to my Zen PUA blog and hope that you'll find it helpful: ================= A professor visited a Zen Master, hoping to learn about Zen. "May I get you some tea?" asked the Master, showing the Professor into his den and offering him a seat. "Yes, thank you, I'd appreciate that," said the Professor. The Master poured the tea from a large teapot into the cup, and continued pouring the tea as the cup filled and ran over the side onto the table, and then onto the floor. The Master continued pouring the tea. The Professor finally jumped and yelled, "STOP, the cup is overfull, the tea is pouring all over the floor." The Master put the teapot down, and said to the Professor, "Before I can teach you about Zen, you must first empty your cup." So first off, we've learned a valuable lesson. If you visit a Zen Master, wear your galoshes. But seriously now folks, what's this story all about? I see many people who are new to PUA take the same route. Often they start off reading “The Game”. They want to take the same path that Neil Strauss did, they want to learn every style of PUA. Soon they are reading every eBook and listening to every MP3 out there. This causes two problems. First, when do they have time to practice what they read? Second, once they have the chance, which style should they use? Some people end up with the full cup syndrome, there’s no room left to learn because the cup is already full, or overflowing. So how does one empty the cup? I find meditation extremely helpful in returning me to “beginner’s mind.” This is the state of not knowing, just being. Forget everything you’ve learned and just be in this moment, totally free and without preconception or judgment. From that place of total freedom you can do anything. Even approach that HB10 over there. There is a great deal to be learned out there, but don’t let it overwhelm you. Keep an open mind, and try to be spontaneous in your approach. Leave room in the cup for new experiences so you continue to experiment and learn.

Author:	3 hands [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:12 am ]
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I think that story also contained some other element. Finish your cup, before you go on to the next thing. A beginner will often want to learn everything and jump from one half done thing to the next. instead of finishing it first. As for what the not knowing which style, I had the problem a few weeks back. Then I started thinking, I liked some things from one person but other things I totally disagreed with. and that with a lot of Guru's and mPUA, So I'm just using the parts I like to create my own game. Essentially like Bruce Lee did, go from The very formal, Solid and routinized style to the more freestyle, liquid and customizeable style.

Author:	PrettyBoy41 [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:46 am ]
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ya guys, zen is completely right on this one. MM works for mystery, but you'll notice that his students dont just use MM, they learn from other people to, and they create a style of pick up that is a combination of everything they have learned and works well for them. I use a combo of MM and Cocky funny because its pretty easy, basic and it works with my personality. Some of that inner game shit is just too deep for me, im not a philosopher, not here to change my life, just making girls a less stressfull aspect of my life. But if your in a position where you need to completely revamp your life, go for it, but dont ignore everything else like Niel. its just not healthy.

Author:	xfman [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:48 am ]
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Quote: I just posted this to my Zen PUA blog and hope that you'll find it helpful: ================= A professor visited a Zen Master, hoping to learn about Zen. "May I get you some tea?" asked the Master, showing the Professor into his den and offering him a seat. "Yes, thank you, I'd appreciate that," said the Professor. The Master poured the tea from a large teapot into the cup, and continued pouring the tea as the cup filled and ran over the side onto the table, and then onto the floor. The Master continued pouring the tea. The Professor finally jumped and yelled, "STOP, the cup is overfull, the tea is pouring all over the floor." The Master put the teapot down, and said to the Professor, "Before I can teach you about Zen, you must first empty your cup." So first off, we've learned a valuable lesson. If you visit a Zen Master, wear your galoshes. But seriously now folks, what's this story all about? I see many people who are new to PUA take the same route. Often they start off reading “The Game”. They want to take the same path that Neil Strauss did, they want to learn every style of PUA. Soon they are reading every eBook and listening to every MP3 out there. This causes two problems. First, when do they have time to practice what they read? Second, once they have the chance, which style should they use? Some people end up with the full cup syndrome, there’s no room left to learn because the cup is already full, or overflowing. So how does one empty the cup? I find meditation extremely helpful in returning me to “beginner’s mind.” This is the state of not knowing, just being. Forget everything you’ve learned and just be in this moment, totally free and without preconception or judgment. From that place of total freedom you can do anything. Even approach that HB10 over there. There is a great deal to be learned out there, but don’t let it overwhelm you. Keep an open mind, and try to be spontaneous in your approach. Leave room in the cup for new experiences so you continue to experiment and learn. I read that story in a book a while ago and I think it is a great advice... I think the book is: The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari by Robin Sharma

Author:	snubby (aka Zen) [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:04 pm ]
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Quote: I think that story also contained some other element. Finish your cup, before you go on to the next thing. Very astute of you. Like most of these old Zen stories, the longer you think about it, the more meaning you find. PrettyBoy41, absolutely. Learn from the best, then make it your own. Take what works for you and leave the rest behind. Then keep improving from there. xfman, is that book any good? I'll have to check it out.

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Author:	xfman [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:10 pm ]
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Quote: xfman, is that book any good? I'll have to check it out. It's a self improvement book, but since your into that stuff I think you will like it. Some interesting points about mind and how to be happy

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