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Author:  mii [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  group
So a HB invited to go sit with her group of friends today at school. I don't really know any of them. I'm not sure if she invited me as a one day kind of thing or whatever. Nothing really much happened today. I need to be more AMOG how can i do this i need to integrate with the group rather than be an outsider. I also find my voice kind of weak sometimes how can i make it better(yes i know to talk slower and deeper). So what should i do for tomorrow?
Author:  .EnVy. [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:25 pm ]
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Go with her to the group. Make sure that you DISARM everyone before you start to hit on the girl.

If the girl is an 8, 9 or 10, I would neg her once, twice or three times, respectively.

Make sure that you act like you are not interested in her so that the her friends don't try to protect her.

You also need TO BE INTERESTING. Talk to the guys, lock her in with a
prop, and just have some guy-to-guy, shoot the shit talk. Tell the guys a
DHV story, and neg her if she interupts; a great one, if she interupts, is:

to cut her off, and say:

"As I was saying, before I was so rudely interrupted..." and continue. After you say this, lock her in by giving her something to hold on to...a ring for example, tell her:
"here, hang on to this, I'll show you something cool with it in a minute."

Finish with the DHV story (make sure your target hears the story) and then go talk to her for a little while. Remember, don't telegraph interest, until you are in with the friends.

Keep in mind: you get along with EVERYONE in that table, except her...UNTIL the time comes where you can start the A3 phase, in which you give her some IOIs.

If you have time, after the group trusts you and think that you're not after her, say:

"I've kinda been alienating *insert name here* I'm just going to walk with her for a little bit."

Then tell her to come with you to buy a bottle of water or something. A good time to kino escalate is here, when you tell her: "Come with me, let's make some friends" and just stick your hand out, and grab hers.

After A1, A2 and A3, you can isolate her alone, and build some comfort with her. If you like, you can even isolate her while you're in A3, that's fine, too.

Above all, MAKE SURE, the friends don't think that you're after her...you need to become friends with everyone at that table, and make sure that they accept you.

Anyways, I pretty much gave you the whole routine in a nut shell.

As for the voice, ALWAYS speak up--it is a demonstration of an alpha male as well as confidence. It's great to show that you are not shy.
Author:  mii [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:26 am ]
Post subject: 
I need to integrate and be part of the group. I don't want to be the creepy guy who just tags along.
Author:  mii [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:33 am ]
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What are some good DHV stories?
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:48 am ]
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He just told you how to integrate into the group. Make friends with everyone. That right there puts you into the group. Once you're in with the group, your in effect in with your target.

Good DHV stories really NEED to come from your own life. Find some things in your life that show YOUR good qualities, and work the stories so that they sound interesting and keep someone's attention when you're telling the story. Practice on friends.
Author:  .EnVy. [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:54 pm ]
Post subject: 
Yeah...
if not, then just 'fake it 'till you make it.'

Use a couple of made up stories
to get their attention.
Author:  mii [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:41 am ]
Post subject: 
Well today she said i should start hanging out with them on a regular basis. Also she said she just broke up with boyfriend does this affect anything?


PS Without eye contact i don't think any of this would of happened take advantage of this.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:53 am ]
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OMG, YES that affects things. Man, she just gave you two IOI's. Go for it man. Just remember, DON'T BE NEEDY.
Author:  mii [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
Well i haven't really done much but today she invited me to one of her birthday partys (Shes having 3 WTF). I need to ask her about it a bit more i don't know all the details yet. But she said they where going shopping unless i heard wrong.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hang out with her, have fun with her. Be the life of the party, even though it's her party, lol.
Author:  .EnVy. [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:47 am ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Hang out with her, have fun with her. Be the life of the party, even though it's her party, lol.
Right.

Make sure you do a lot
of peacocking and don't
act like you're needy (as
L.A. already said).

If you know she's attracted
to you, the party is a GREAT
time to use the jealousy method
and have girls hitting on you
in front of her. That would make
her MORE attracted to you, and
you can start giving her IOIs and
building comfort (A.K.A. rapport).
Author:  mii [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
So today as i was leaving school. I asked her so whens your party she said next weekend (She told me this Saturday before) and then she gave me a weird look and asked me why? I said just wondering and left. I found it that kind of weird. Did she forget she invited me and found it weird that i was asking about it? Or am i just thinking to much. How should i have responded to when she asked why?
Author:  .EnVy. [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:20 pm ]
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Okay, she didn't forget. Girls NEVER forget, trust me (unless it's a special case lol). All the girls that I've talked to seem to remember conversations that we have had like 3 weeks ago--so I don't think that she forgot.

But, what you should have done is waited for her to officially invite you to the party. You might have displayed a little over-eagerness, but that's not a problem. You can recover from that with negs and not telegraphing interest.

If I were in your position, I would not have asked about the party. You need to show her that you have better things to do, and that you're a very busy guy. Act like you're the most social guy and everybody loves you (this is where the DHVs come in).

When she OFFICIALLY invites you, you need to say that you're busy, even if you're not. Then tell her that you'll try to show up a little while after the party starts. Then she'll have to accept that--show up 30 mins to an hour after the beginning of the party, and start opening sets to build jealousy.
Author:  mii [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:57 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Okay, she didn't forget. Girls NEVER forget, trust me (unless it's a special case lol). All the girls that I've talked to seem to remember conversations that we have had like 3 weeks ago--so I don't think that she forgot.

But, what you should have done is waited for her to officially invite you to the party. You might have displayed a little over-eagerness, but that's not a problem. You can recover from that with negs and not telegraphing interest.

If I were in your position, I would not have asked about the party. You need to show her that you have better things to do, and that you're a very busy guy. Act like you're the most social guy and everybody loves you (this is where the DHVs come in).

When she OFFICIALLY invites you, you need to say that you're busy, even if you're not. Then tell her that you'll try to show up a little while after the party starts. Then she'll have to accept that--show up 30 mins to an hour after the beginning of the party, and start opening sets to build jealousy.
She did invite me before though. I dont really care though because i cant go anyway. But its important for other reasons.
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