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| Author: | Esperanto [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Online first date F-close - Freeze-out Technique Discussion |
Over the last two years I've been online dating, with pretty good success. Now I'm back in the field since I have more time on my hands, but looking back on one of my exploits, I can actually learn a lot about a certain F-close I had. This was done before I made it a point to analyze my behavior and the target's behavior. In retrospect, it all makes perfect sense and I fell into the correct behavior pattern throughout the night, but I do have one topic of discussion I want to bring up. So we met online, blah, blah, blah. I won't go into my online game (which developed to be pretty good) but the point is I took her out for a drink. The conversation flowed as quickly and as easily as the martinis we were drinking, and she was digging my methods immediately. The IOIs were off the charts...probably the best I've ever had so quickly: - She had the puppy dog eyes the entire conversation - She leaned in to talk though I was comfortably leaning back - At one point she smiled at me deviously, stared wide-eyed, and slowly shook her head back and forth during a break in the conversation. If you've ever experienced this, you know that you'd have to make a large effort to fuck up the inevitable fuck that is to come. -Heading to the next bar after initial drinks (change of location time-shift, no idea I was doing this) she interlocked her arm in mine. So obviously I'm pretty happy with how its going so far. The time at the bar is uneventful...I continue the kino and she reciprocated. Then she suggests we, "Get out of here." I said, "Absolutely not, biatch," and walked away. Ha, but seriously, we headed back to my place though I kissed her before getting into the car. Anyways, back at my place is where the date analysis gets interesting. I walk her into my living room, kiss her, and ask if she wants to go upstairs to my room. She says, "No." NO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Are you fucking kidding me? Did we come back for tea and biscuits? Maybe some Matlock and we call it an early night. I didn't let it bother me too much...though not because I had a plan. I just figured she wanted to wait, and I knew she dug me so I'd definitely be digging into her at some point in the future. So we sat on the couch and she began to ask me about my goals, motivations, etc. I'm a relatively motivated guy who has achieved good success, so give me an excuse to talk about it and I'll gladly comply. In fact, I started getting so engrossed in the convo that I ditched all kino (I froze her out without knowing). She then commented that I talk about my goals with such passion. Next thing I know she is all over me and in 20 minutes I find out she can orgasm multiple times in a night and that she is LOUD about it! So onto the discussion part of this post. I asked her as we were disrobing "I thought you didn't want to come upstairs." She says, "I can't let you in THAT easily." So obviously it was on her mind all night. Chick needed to bang (in fact, after that fact she even said "Damn, I needed that"). So why did she try to ascertain my value again by asking about my motivations and goals? This is not the first time this has happened, which I find interesting. Freezing a girl out works well in this situation, but I'd like to speed things along at this point. So here's the question: What is the best freeze-out conversation topic to get the girl back into you? There's a pattern in the girls' I've been concerning their LMR - they want to re-ascertain my value for whatever reason. If there's a pattern in that mindframe, then there must be a canned topic of conversation I can bring up that will take her guard down. So far I've had great success with simply re-establishing my value by describing what my future plans are, but that may not always work. Any thoughts? Rock it out, gentlemen. -Esperanto |
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| Author: | Smurf [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:47 pm ] |
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hmmm, well I've never had to use freeze-outs. But theoretically I'd say that the goals topic is top-notch. Demonstrates confidence, value, self-worth. Anything your passionate about really and that you can talk about with enthusiasm and knowledge. |
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