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| Author: | Charlatan [ Sat May 15, 2010 3:54 pm ] |
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The first part of this chronicles the actual lay report for the sake of anyone who wants to learn or offer critique. The real question I'm dealing with is towards the bottom, I bolded a part of it, so feel free to scroll down and skip what's actually a rather mundane lay report imo. Recently wound up talking online with a girl I knew back in highschool. A solid 7. Cute as hell. Real short and tiny in that "put her where you want to" way that I just go crazy for. (I'm only 5'6'' so I think significantly shorter women give me and ego boost?) Kind of a tamed-down punk style. I'd had a huge crush on her then (and I was the definition of AFC in those days) and she didn't just turn me down, she had a great time playing with me and stringing me on before dropping me. So when I hear from her five years later... I admit, my thoughts were a little dirty. I wanted to get what I'd been denied back then. She had just moved back into the area after a few years in LA and I was on my way home to visit friends and family for a week. We made plans to grab a cup of coffee. It was pretty standard game, not incredibly creative. Conversation consisted mostly of playful teasing: lot's of telling her she was trouble, saying she was bound to be a bad influence on me, hearing about a messy love-triangle she got involved in once and telling her that her life was a bad soap opera. We finished our coffee and moved outside to smoke. No one else was on the patio so playful kino escalation was a cinch. Standard push-pull. I'd turn teasing into playful mock fighting/gentle shoving/tickling, whatever. Then turn that into lingering touches, a little hand holding, leaning against the railing with my arms around her from behind. (That's more aggressive than I usually am with early kino.) If she started to pull I'd quit the play and just worry about enjoying my cigarette, stop giving her attention. She'd make it flirty again in a couple minutes. I was going to a bonfire later with some friends and she knew that from the beginning. It helped a lot I think. So after we smoked a few I had an hour and a half to kill and she invited me to spend the time at her place. It was definitely nice that she knew I was "just killing time" with her and that my friends took precedent. At her place her roommate and brother were hanging out. Thought the brother would be a problem, but he was cool, and younger. Made sure to hit it off and buddy up with him first thing just in case. Gotta comment on how great it is to team up with your target's brother to make fun of her (as long as it's still just teasing of course.) It negs her and puts him at ease at the same time. So after a little talk with everyone I ask her where the bathroom is. She takes me and there's something weird about the light or something, I don't remember, but she steps in the bathroom to show me how to work or something. We're already in a tight space, close, and she's been responding well all night so I go for the kiss. She responds. I make sure to cut it off before she does and then tell her "her c'mon, I gotta piss, get out of here." "Hey you started it!" She says. We laugh. She leaves, I piss. We spent the rest of my time there inconspicuously touching hands and stealing kisses when no ones looking, that kind of silly playful stuff. When I tell her I have to leave she walks me to my car. We make out a bit there with some heavy touching. She tells me I'm making her horny, obviously wants me to stay, but I really do care more about my friends. I tell her i have to go. She asks if I want to come over after. I tell her it depends how late the fire goes and whether I feel like it, but maybe. I leave, go the fire, have fun, it's ends around midnight and I send her a text saying I'm heading home and ask "if I make a detour on the way will it be worth my while?" "Oh I'll make it worth it..." So I pick her up and we go park somewhere and fuck in my car for a few hours. It was actually great sex. She did the "good girl" thing in highschool but I find out she really loves pain. I've never had a girl want me to just smack her like that before. She left some scratches on my ass that lasted weeks too. Not the kind of thing I'd want every night, but definitely fun for varieties sake. Anyway, here's my problem with all of this. This was by far the easiest lay of my life. The whole thing went down effortlessly. I'm not bragging here, because the fact of the matter is... I have no respect for this girl. She wasn't a stranger who I wanted to like me for validations sake. She was someone I already knew I disliked somewhat and just wanted to "conquer." I did not bother to "leave her better than I found her." It bothers that that's the attitude that got me laid the easiest. Would all women be this easy to pick up if I felt that kind of disdain for them? I came away from this night feeling, well, "like a bad guy" to be cheesy about it. I don't want to become misogynistic here... It feels like a slippery slope. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | AFC Royal [ Sat May 15, 2010 4:11 pm ] |
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If the girl's into pain, it wouldn't surprise me if she enjoys the kind of attitude that you put out. But it sounds like you left her better than you found her anyway, from what I'm reading. If there wasn't any follow up, then I think you shouldn't worry about it. |
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| Author: | aff219 [ Wed May 19, 2010 1:22 am ] |
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she treated you like shit in the past. you got what you wanted. some people will say that you should have been the bigger man and just treated her nicely, but they obviously havent been through the same level of mental hell as you. why do i say that? cause everyone can only handle so much. what will really hurt someone and upset them (make them hate someone?) is not the same for everybody, every circumstance is different, but everyone has that certain point of snapping and wanting revenge. with that said, you got closure on your past via having a re-do and dominating it. good for you i say. not many people get a redo for things in life. |
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| Author: | celso [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:14 pm ] |
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exactly fuck her and just says who cares |
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| Author: | the scamp [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:21 am ] |
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Quote: She was someone I already knew I disliked somewhat and just wanted to "conquer." I did not bother to "leave her better than I found her."
Not sure I understand this bit.So you had a good flirty afternoon followed later by some great sex. Why is this leaving her worse than you found her? Girls know not all guys want a relationship with them and I don't think they mind as long as you're honest with her. Scamp |
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