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| Author: | Locke [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | LMR or mind fuk? lay report - lay = just a report. |
I will go into detail if anyone inquires more; for now I am going to keep it in bullet format so as to not write a 10 minute story. -Girl that I supposedly had "one-itis" for (which I realized it was just a false feeling I got for having someone with similar interests show me sexual interest) told me she wasnt interested after about three weeks of fooling around. Cool. -I freeze girl out for two weeks. -I find out girl had met a guy while we were "dating"; this totally busted her lie on the "i am not ready for a relationship" excuse she gave me. I don't care anymore, i just didnt think she was that type of person -freeze out continues -freeze out ends; we begin talking again -yada yada yada she wants to hang out -she wants to dance -im not in the mood to go out, so she comes over -girl comes up to my room, we have a couple beers, have some pizza, turn on some music. we dance, she grinds. wow hot. we listen to some more music, she grinds some more. wooow hot. -we change the music type, chill on mah bed and talk for a little while. she lays down and tells me to give her a massage. -i tell her that she needs to give me one, or earn it. she asks what she has to do. I tell her to crawl over to me and give me a hug. she does. i roll her back down and slap on some lotion and start the rubdown. -massage ends after about 15 min. -we talk a little more. I turn the movie on, she starts spooning with me -ah fuck it, right? So im spooning with this girl for at least 30 minutes; and she falls asleep. -i wake her up about 20 minutes later and crawl over top of her so that she can move up the bed (and i can see the movie...lol) she is like "what are you doing" and pushes me off the bed.... -she "falls" off the bed too. some how lands on top of me, straddling me. -she is looking me square in the eyes, im holding her contact. -I make a pass and try to kiss her. -she stands up immediately, gets back into MY bed, under MY covers and proceeds to lecture ME. -girl wants to know what the hell that was about. then she changes her mind. she doesn't care why i tried. she starts going nuts about how "would I want to be in a relationship with a girl who cheated on her boyfriend?" -I try to play it cool and i explain to her that she is still young, and that people date, tastes change, and likes change. I tell her that because of this, and depending on the situation, i would. -she starts getting all "what the fuck Locke...? Would you really? Thats so fucked up. I would never even date someone unless I thought I was going to marry them; that doesn't make sense; why would you be in a relationship if you didnt think it was going to last?" - I shut down and ignore her. I start watching the movie -she continues blathering -i put in the occasional yep, nope, yep, yep. nope -her boyfriend calls and interrupts this. now im thinking WTF! I could have so turned her frustration and questioning into sexual tension. It was there. all it would have taken was me to say the right thing and make the right move. too late. - she gets up, puts her sweater back on, and says she needs to go. -i begin walking her out (i live in whereverville and she needed to be guided out to the main road) we get downstairs I open the door and she is like "wait! why won't you look at me blah blah blah" -I don't answer the question. she asks me why i would have tried to make a pass. she says "i thought you were not going to make any passes? I thought we are just friends? you said you had no intentions like this" I explain to her that I didn't. that i had fun, and there is no doubt that she had fun. I tell her that I like going with the flow...thats how I roll....and thats where it led. was to that. she is like "yea, sureeeeeee" (sarcastically) then she asks "so your not going to tell me?" what the fuck do i need to tell you? I say "no, I don't know what you fucking want" and I walk out to my car and lead her out. that was the night. Mind fuck? or Last Minute Resistance? what did I do right? what did i do wrong? p.s. I lied. I did go into detail, and it is a 10 minute story. |
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| Author: | Cohath [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:30 pm ] |
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I'll make this short cause I've gotta run to do shit, but here's what I see. You probably could have made something happen, had that been your goal. Yes, she didn't want to cheat on her boyfriend, but then why the hell did she come over to your house? You did a good freeze out, but you should have paid attention to what she was saying and gamed her from it. When you went for the kiss, you should have made her come to you, because it's obvious that she wanted to. Build the sexual tension, and when it's right, pull the trigger. It was LMR my friend, nothing else. I think had you used a few BF destroyers you could have had her stay in your bed. It's not much, but you seemed to be doing pretty good there, just missed a few things because you got frustrated. Just be careful, because she seems like the kind of girl that this would destroy her relationship if something were to happen. Good luck. Shalom. |
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| Author: | Locke [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:44 pm ] |
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Yea, really; why would she come over and start spooning  I wish I would have, but sometimes (and this is a problem I have been working on- with tips from Ryelee and LA Tripp) I put my emotions before my thoughts. In this case, I felt like she was being naggy so instead of playing it smart, i tuned her out. And you are right; I need to be careful because she does feel that dating is a serious thing. I don't want to ruin anyone. |
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| Author: | gyarados [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:09 am ] |
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when she was on top of me (say i was in your shoes) I would have been like "aren't you gonna kiss me then  " and have a confused face like she's acting out of the norm having not done it yet. and maybe do an open palmed type expression like "wft" kind of a brainwash but isn't that what the game's about  If there's a no then I would act unfazed and probably say "oh, later " and if theres another confusion look from her, I would act unfazed again and probably say "oh yeah, jus friends, " and change the subject. ...until I can tell she's become relaxed to the idea  So what I'm getting at is:- If she believes that you think what your doing is normal, then won't it go into her head and make her think its normal too? I alwyas do the innocent look like I don't realise that ita bad
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| Author: | Locke [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:42 pm ] |
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maybe, maybe not. If I would have been like *hands up in the air in WTF mode* "so, about that kiss huh?" I think she would have stood up just as fast and rethought about it. I could be wrong, but in situations where things are getting heated up and things might happen that could be potentially wrong (well, for her situation) using words might bring her back to reality. Especially using words like Kiss and "Aren't you." Those are power words in that scenario; they would trigger the mind to think instead of the body to react. Going with the ebb and flow of body language and passion (I think) would make things less BOLD and allow things to happen before logic sets in. But I would agree with you about after it happened and I got deflected, I should have been more of the "innocent" type and not shut down. By doing what I did, and getting all frustrated, i made it obvious that I knew what I was doing was wrong. If I played it off like nothing happened, I would have been able to change the subject. |
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| Author: | The Wild One [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:41 pm ] |
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PM me for advice |
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| Author: | more_serotonin_pls [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:01 pm ] |
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I think you missed one hell of an opportunity when giving the massage dude. That is an invite to start kissing the shoulders and back. Then move it up to the neck and bingo... I;ve done that one so many times... Get 'em at their most vulnerable - if you know what I mean. In hindsight that sounds wrong, but you get the gist, right? |
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