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Author:  JohnCooper [ Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  LR: (SNL) 5min Belgium Bonk with Breakdown
The Belgian Girl
How to seize the opportunity quickly (5 min rapid-escalation)

I ended up at O Bar in Soho. As I was sat down a Belgian girl came and sat down next to me. Here's how the conversation went...

Her: Hey Are you Belgian?
Me: JA!
Her: haha you're English
Me: nein!
Her: haha so where you from?
Me: hey listen let's play a game, we're not allowed to say anything boring or trivial we have to be totally honest with each other..
Her: YAY Ok! (she did a little pinky promise with me)
ME: Ok so what was the real reason you came and sat down next to me?
Her: i'm just a friendly person, you were the first person I saw
Me: bullshit - what's the real reason (maintaining sexual eye contact)
Her: ok, i thought you looked interesting
Me: hmmmm ok... so ur go
Her: have you got a gf
Me: why do you ask?
Her: i split up with my bf 2 weeks ago. ur go..
Me: What if we were to get out of here right now and go back to yours?
Her: you cant say that
Me Hey listen these are the rules. Perhaps i'm just too sexual for you huh...
Her: another 10 second silence... Ok lets get out of here...


So some of the principles here (in bold)

She sits down next to me - I can gauge she is interested
Her: Hey Are you Belgian?
Me: JA! happy to tease/not succumb to her
Her: haha your english
Me: nein! again
Her: haha so where you from?
Me: hey listen lets play a game, we're not allowed to say anything boring or trivial we have to be totally honest with each other...not answering her question, showing dominance and immediately snapping her out of social autopilot by reframing conversation into something more interesting
Her: YAY Ok! (she did a little pinky promise with me)
ME: Ok so what was the real reason you came and sat down next to me? sexually charged
Her: i'm just a friendly person, you were the first person I saw
Me: bullshit - what's the real reason (maintaining eye contact) strong sexual frame/ramping up
Her: ok, i thought you looked interesting
Me: hmmmm ok... so your go keeping the pressure on her
Her: have you got a gf - (this girl wants fucking!)
Me: why do you ask? deflecting pressure back on her with a question to her question
Her: i split up with my bf 2 weeks ago. ur go..shes after sex and needs extracting
Me: What if we were to get out of here right now and go back to yours?
Her: you cant say that She’s testing my congruency, and hoping i live up to the statement
Me Hey listen these are the rules. Perhaps i'm just too sexual for you huh...a long eye contact of about 5 seconds where she is testing to see if i break first, which would mean i’m full of shit.
Her: another 10 second silence... Ok lets get out of here...
Author:  TheNaturalPlayboy [ Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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Nicely done John, It's just like a walk in the park .. rapid-escalation alright.






-TheNaturalPlayboy
Author:  Lelouch vi Britannia [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LR: (SNL) 5min Belgium Bonk with Breakdown
Quote:
So some of the principles here (in bold)...
lol! i like how you added a part for the retarded people of the strategic steps you took in detail. i guess cause some people said in your previous posts that you didn't say which routines you used :roll: but your game seems effortless. even if in this case she opened you i can think of a lot of times i fucked up with a girl that showed interest first.

the only question i have is what was the build-up to that. where you sitting alone and she came and sat with you or did you have preselection? have you been gaming previously and she saw you? because obviously you must have set yourself up from other guys
Author:  P-Style [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:10 pm ]
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Excellent game routine. Gonna use that one for sure in the future.
But there's one flaw: nein is german. The dutch word for no is nee. You can walk the walk but certainly not talk the talk :evil:
Author:  bullshitter1 [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:43 pm ]
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well i dunno if that little story in on the level or not but everything u say happened sounds legit...as in it should work
however if a girl sat down at the bar next to me...its almost game over anyhow...i wouldnt feel the need to escalte things withing 2 minutes flat...id hang out with her for a while first escalating and getting physical in the bar...if she was as receptive as u said then id be in no hurry to order dinner before samplin a starter.......u never even mentioned any physical contact other than a pinky promise in the bar....
this is the only reason i smell bullshit here...really but only u know the truth.
ive picked up under similar circumstances but not without some actual foreplay first in the club/bar...anyhow i find that the fun part......so atleast i know what im getting if i sample a little first.

Oh by the way...I know mainland northern european girls do shit like that...they really do just approach guys in bars alone...it happens in germany alot too...and if u have a forign accent...like english then ur gonna be hit on even more...
so its plausable everything said by the OP..my cousin lives in germany and gets it all the time and he looks like a bum...but this shit does not happen in the UK or Ireland.
It happens occasionaly in the USA but nothing like in mainland northern europe.
U dont exactly need to study PUA in order for a girl to be proactive and hit on u...u just gotta be in the right place.
For the rest of u we gotta have skills...u know in normal life
Author:  JohnCooper [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:34 pm ]
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P-Style - I think you missed the joke, I deliberately said NEIN because it is obviously not Belgian!

Lelouchi vi Britannia - i was sitting with a guy friend with no 'pre-selection'. They key to my style is never going out with the primary objective being the girls. Instead the primary objective is just enjoying my night and being autonomous in what i am doing. The girls then become a secondary outcome which i am open to. If you fuck around with this and make the girl your primary obecjtive you always telegraph neediness and come from an acquisition mindset which repels the girls. This behaviour showed her that my reality must be so good that i do not crave female stimuli around me and she wanted to be a part of it.

Bullshitter1 - i escalated things quickly because every girl/situation is different, you have to have acuity in knowing which girls are just out to have fun, which are looking for a boyF, which just want to get laid. You can also be aware of which ones want extracting straight away. In this instance, she needed taking home soon. There wasnt much physical contact you are right. I didnt need to. Often touching releases a lot of pressure and the girl feels she has everything she wants from the situation. Thats why you see people snogging on the dancefloor in clubs then walking off. Again every girl and environment is different and you have to use your common sense.
Author:  Shyler [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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I lived for 18 years in Brussels and to my experiences, Belgian girls are not the hottest girls in Europe to say it nicely. However, there is a (huge) difference between the Flemish "girls" from countryside, the french speaking Walloon girls from Brussels, and the bimbos from Antwerp. To my experience, the Flemish girls from the countryside or the small towns are the ones that drink much, get drunk easily and become dtf and extremely needy.
So just out of curiosity, I would like to know: how was this Belgian girl? Maybe it will break some prejudice.

In any case, well done!
Author:  JohnCooper [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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lol Shyler, I am not sure where in Belgium she was from but I can guarantee she was hot!
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