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Author:  Freud17 [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  She asked: "Are you a pick-up artist?"
Hey guys,

FYI, I've been trying out the mystery method for a few weeks. Last night I went out to this nearby lounge in Chicago with a specific plan: to go in and open the first set I see.

There were two girls sitting at the bar, facing the bar. I sat next to HB7 (the other one was HB8) ordered a glass of water and opened in 10 seconds by asking her opinion about the music, paying specific attention to my voice and body language. I transitioned to the best friend test, they loved it and I got IOIs in forms of laughter and touch; attraction was on. After a few more words, I stopped, leaned back, and pretended I was looking for my friends int he crowd. At this point HB7 restarted the conversation with something that I don't remember and this stop/restart cycle happened a couple of more times. Since I was sure about enough IOI's, I was ready to move to the next phases, but that was where I faced a couple of problems:

1. Not to be a douche and brag or anything but to make my point I need to say, I'm a relatively good looking guy. Every time I go to bars/club, I notice women eye-contacting me in the crowd, or hear them telling their friends (in a way the I hear it) that this guy is very handsome; sometimes during our conversation they directly tell me the same thing. Now, I'm pointing this out, because next to the fact that I'm an MD, I'm assuming this might be somewhat intimidating for some women, in the sense that "why this good looking doc is talking to me? something's wrong here".... Back to the story, she asked me what I did for a living and I said I'm a doctor (embedded in a story), and right away, I noticed IOD in her facial expression which still, I don't have any explanation for it other than what I just said. She was a waitress by the way, and tried so hard to wrap it in nice words like "I work in the food industry, blah blah blah". Now don't take me wrong, I don't care about their job. What I do care is their looks and personality!.... Anyways, I hope this is the right place to ask for feedback too; what do you guys think? Do I have to adjust my game, or my assumption about them getting a little intimidated is wrong in the first place?

2. Next thing that happened was when I went for the cube game. I told her, let's play a personality game, blah blah blah, and as soon as I told her imagine you're in an empty white room, she said: "Are you a pick-up artist?" + IOD ... I wasn't that interested in her anyways so I wrapped up the conversation in a polite way + denying any knowledge about PUA, scanned the room just to find out there was no other interesting sets, and left the venue to somewhere else... But what if I was interested? What do you guys do when they call you out on your PUA routines?


Hope you guys are enjoying the journey to its fullest....

Freud.
Author:  Stonecold [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:46 pm ]
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Hey man,

Im pretty new to the Pickup game too, but by the sounds of it, when she asked if you were a pick up artist, it was a shit test. She wanted to see how you reacted and if the way you acted after the question was congruent to the way you acted before.

Denying knowledge of pickup i think would of been ok, but when you politely excused yourself and left, I think you failed the shit test.

Im not entirely sure how one would pass that test, but thats just my 0.02c
Author:  Imar [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:10 pm ]
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Say yes and ask if she enjoys it.
Author:  bdavidsonk22 [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:08 am ]
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should of replied yes, and asked if she wanted to be taught a few things.
Author:  SOUL_FIGHTER [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:29 am ]
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When I went to school in Tokyo, I was with some buddies in J-Lair. It was actually my first exposure to PUA in general. So anyway, the tagline to claim a girl and to identify other puas in the lair was to say, "Hey, doesn't this girl look like Aiko?"

So one night at Muse in Roppongi, I said it about this girl, AND NO LIE! She said "Yeah, people tell me that often"
Author:  Nemesis... [ Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  are you a pick up artists?
Dear Freud,

You first point i believe that you are paying attention to details too much. It looks like your game is pretty good. Dont try to explain everything. Feel that your game is good and move on if she is something doesnt work. If you are confident with your game then its her fault and not yours.

I am going to answer you to point No2. Remember never to answer withe a straight yes or no unless you will add something funny and cocky. A potential answer to the question are you a PUA might be:

No sweety!! I am not a PUA, i am their coach!
OR
YES, and so far you are the only one who noticed it. I give you a credit for being so observative (or thanks for the observation), but dont get too comfortable.
OR
You really paid attention to what i was saying?Looks like a girl here did her homework for tonight...hmmm...challenging...and i never sey no to challenges.


This is some of the stuff that i have. the rest just come naturally and so i dont remember them. If something comes up i will let you know.

Enjoy the journey, not the destination!
Author:  mpuapua [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:20 am ]
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if she wanted to flirt with you she would have played along with the cube game and enjoyed it even if she read The Game and had this done on her many times. sounds like maybe you found a moody woman. find a different woman who has a different taste. just dress up really well and give her a compliment and try to flirt and agree with what she is saying. maybe tell them that it's hard for you at work because female doctors and nurses flirt with you all the time and you cannot flirt back because you are at work.
Author:  Freud17 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:09 am ]
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Thank you guys; useful inputs..... interesting point about yes/no + C&F; will use that with pleasure.....
Author:  Dark_Flame [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:41 pm ]
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Informed shit test, I've actually seen guys telling women ALL about the game to try and *reserve* women so they can't be picked up. (Trying to prove that they're different and special) Never works and sometimes ruins it for the rest of us.

Must admit I've never been asked but I stopped using the cube *apart from in perfect situations* to establish rapport. Personally I would of gone with a diversionary tactic ;) "I have no idea but some have likened me to Brad Pitt" *strike pose* If they're determined to get it out of you *despite giggling a bit* Then just feign ignorance again like you did and say "I have no idea a female friend of mine showed me this and said it really worked"

I think the main point is that women always think your trying to game them 'in one way or another' the point of the game is to just do it in a smooth manner and to let the girl enjoy the experience of being 'wooed' by someone who understands women *more than the other schmucks*

Just think of a response to "Are you trying to hit on me?", a good one would be "Pffft, got a bit of a big head haven't you!"

So feign ignorance ;), ask her to explain what it is and follow up with the same response, maybe even gently tease with "You think hordes of trained professionals are chasing after you to try and get you into bed, your modest!"

All tongue in cheek with a cheeky grin on your face ;) If that doesn't make her giggle and blush then eject and move on.

Hope that helps!
Author:  pumpington [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:35 am ]
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Informed shit test, I've actually seen guys telling women ALL about the game to try and *reserve* women so they can't be picked up. (Trying to prove that they're different and special) Never works and sometimes ruins it for the rest of us. Must admit I've never been asked but I stopped using the cube *apart from in perfect situations* to establish rapport. Personally I would of gone with a diversionary tactic ;) "I have no idea but some have likened me to Brad Pitt" *strike pose* If they're determined to get it out of you *despite giggling a bit* Then just feign ignorance again like you did and say "I have no idea a female friend of mine showed me this and said it really worked"

I think the main point is that women always think your trying to game them 'in one way or another' the point of the game is to just do it in a smooth manner and to let the girl enjoy the experience of being 'wooed' by someone who understands women *more than the other schmucks*

Just think of a response to "Are you trying to hit on me?", a good one would be "Pffft, got a bit of a big head haven't you!"

So feign ignorance ;), ask her to explain what it is and follow up with the same response, maybe even gently tease with "You think hordes of trained professionals are chasing after you to try and get you into bed, your modest!"

All tongue in cheek with a cheeky grin on your face ;) If that doesn't make her giggle and blush then eject and move on.

Hope that helps!
incorrect i've done it and it worked
Author:  Andres_Moreno [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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You asked what we say when girls ask us what we do for a living. I am a lawyer. Not some high-powered attorney quite yet, but definitely on a good way to becoming one in say 5 years. I used to be happy when a girl asked what my job was. I thought she would be impressed. But the girls smelled that I wanted to brag (irrespective of whether they believed me or not) and gave me an IOD right there.

What I do now is I make up something funny (like an artist creating animals of used beer cans) or I say that I inherited a fortune and now I don't work and just drink a lot. It is always obvious that I'm joking, but I insist that it's true. Then later on I just "accidently" let something slip - some hint - and when the girl ask again, then I say: "Okay, you got me, I'm a lawyer. And don't even think about any funny remark or I'll sue you!" This usually works okay.
Author:  fakehighfive [ Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:17 am ]
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If you sarge by yourself, you have to be comfortable by yourself. No bullshitting about your non-existing friends, just be comfortable with being yourself. I've picked up a lot of girls by myself, even the last girl I did she asked and I told her. she thought it was brave coz she wouldn't be able to do that. not many people can.

secondly, by going away and denying you were a pick up artist, well done. you just convinced her you're a pick up artist :P
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