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| Author: | Carlos [ Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | RIDICULOUS Amounts of Social Proof |
I admit this is a long post, and I'm still quite a bit of a keyboard jockey, but just putting a few things into play tonight helped quite a bit. I'm mainly CF, all I've read so far is Double your dating, Mystery Method, 1/2 of Frogs into Princes, and the game. So, last night I put on a college halloween party that'd been in the planning stages for the past month. The Business Students Club puts on the biggest parties, and I'm the Activity Coordinator. This was my baby, and it was by far the biggest and best party we've ever done. This is what was told to me every five seconds I was at the party. I had to run around checking on staff and clearing up problems, since they always want my okay before doing anything. Like I said, LOADS of social proof. There was a point where there were 3 girls who were having a tug of war over me because they all were wanting to dance with me. And before you jump down my throat, I know, I know, the dance floor is a trap. But it was a dance party, and for me, dancing is a DHV. I have a reputation as an awesome dancer. One thing that I've never been confident enough in is grinding; I'm a good enough dancer that I notice when a girl sucks. If they can't grind or dance with rhythym, it's not fun. tips? Anyway, I was floating around, talking to everyone I knew... I knew quite a few people there, but I'd be happier had I opened some sets. Girls were coming up to me left and right telling me I put on an awesome party. One girl tried to shake my hand. I looked at her disdainfully. "What is that? Here." Point to the cheek, get the kiss. This worked with every girl all night, I abused it mercilessly, it's my new favourite tool. Newbies, USE THE CHEEK POINT. On to the main event: the HB8. This girl I knew from back in highschool. We dated for maybe a day when I was in grade 10 and her grade 9, and then she decided it felt weird and broke up through our mutual friend (Sara). Little kid BS, I'm sure you all remember. Anyway, we haven't seen much of eachother since, the exception being a few weeks ago where I was hanging out with her and Sara, and she got to hear all about how I've been hassled my girls fighting over me lately (she knows I get plenty of women). Sara calls me when I'm at the party, I tell her it's going on, and even though it's sold out, I can get her in. She shows up with her bf and HB8. Right from the start, HB8 is up in my face trying to k close. Why not? I let her have some. Then I leave them for a while so I can do my job. I give the girl selling beer a bathroom break and take over. HB8 comes over and leans across the table, wanting more kisses. I oblige, after teasing her a bit. She comes around behind the table and sits on my lap. Carlos: What do you think you're doing back here? You're going to have to go. HB8: Haha, what?? I think you like me back here. Carlos: I'm gonna kick you out soon. *french kissing* Carlos: Okay, get out. I slowly but firmly pushed her out from behind the tables. She looked shocked, and I grinned, shrugged, and turned back to face the front where patrons come to be served. Later on I came across her on the dancefloor with the couple she arrived with. She pulled me in close, and we made out lightly on the dancefloor. Nothing too heavy, I didn't want to seem any more trashy than I already did. There were times when I'd go in for a kiss and then as she went into it, I'd back off, just barely brushing her lips, sort of the equivalent of pulling your hand away right before a high five. I'd grin at her, she'd look shocked, and if she pulled in for more I'd reward her with a proper kiss. There were often times when other girls were wanting their turn (7s, 8s, and 9s) to dance with me, so I would spin HB8 and promptly walk away, to another dance partner, or to check on my staff. She'd always grab for me and try to pull me back, and half of the time I'd let her. (sidenote: it seems I rescued quite a few girls from guys they couldn't get away from that evening. I'd just grab them and away we'd go, completely shutting down the guy who was hoping to get his grind on) At one point we had this exchange. HB8: So how many girls are you dating Carlos? Carlos: (what?) None, actually. (very honest sounding) HB8: Well, how many girls are you seeing? Carlos: (oh shit, these are shit tests!) 30 HB8: Hahaha, you're lying. Carlos: You're right, it's actually 32. There you go. You've found me out. The next time I danced with her after this, Carlos: So how many guys are you seeing? HB8: I saw one guy at this party last night... blah blah (he's 26, but he was rude and got really drunk. She's 19 btw) Carlos: Oh yeah... I screwed up! I shouldn't have asked her that. Too much insecurity. By this point it was pretty much lost... I'd negged her too much. her esteem couldn't take it. She took control of the frame. She'd turn away when *I* tried to kiss her, and when she didn't, it was a short one. (my technique could've been better. No C-tracing on her face, no hand usage at all.) At one point after her turning away I actually took hold of her head to get a kiss... A little TOO forceful on my part, but I'm tired of never going far enough. Like I said, she changed the frame, and next thing I knew, all my other prospects had left, it was last call, and she was the only single girl on the dance floor. I had to share her with a guy dressed up as a chippendale dancer. I knew it was over, but I wanted to have fun dancing, so I did, and at the end of the night I told her, sara, and sara's bf where the DD service was located, and to have a good night: I had to clean up. I gave HB8 a kiss and started dealing with staff. I got home at 4 to a girl waiting for me (she'd been at a different party and we'd arranged for her to stay over days before), so I had an awesome night. INCREDIBLE sex. Now, Analysis: I think I planted a lot of seeds this night. girls who previously saw me as a eunuch now see that Carlos got game. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure I DLV'd by making out in public and by competing for HB8. But if people ask, I can tell them I let her go, I had someone waiting at home for me. One other thing, and this is something I need URGENT ADVICE on: What do I do to keep this ball rolling? I've got a house party to go to tonight with a guy who owes me big time for letting his buddy in last night. How should I improve for tonight? HB8 won't be there, but others from last night will be. (another addendum of no importance: at one point, some girl was trying to hold onto me, I got the kiss on the cheek, said something dismissive to her since she wasn't paying me enough respect, and turned away to talk to staff about a problem. Out of my periphs I could see her shock. it was beautiful. I am having SO much fun with this stuff guys. eager to learn.) |
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| Author: | rawlines [ Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:33 am ] |
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Hey Bro, what do you mean by the dance floor is a trap? |
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| Author: | Casual [ Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:37 am ] |
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haha sounds like you are having a fun time. you know what, i had a very similar experience like this which is why i hope i can help you out a little bit. basically what i've learned from house parties like this is that they're fun in the moment, especially when people are drinking.... but it's hard to transition these later on if you don't work them appropriately (you may literally end up with no f-close instead of the possible 4-5! haha). so although you may have a girl's interest during the party (even if you k-close =/), they may not feel the same way the next day/few days... they may regret it, have just enjoyed the attention at the time, etc. so what you need to do is keep your value as high as possible. you should pick ONE GIRL at the party and stick to her and only her in terms of who you want. everyone else is either a pivot, social proof or saved for later. what you do with them is DHV as much as you can, maybe with interesting stories, good moral values (you like to have fun and live in the moment). isolate as many times if possible, this will help you have more alone time and get from A3 to C3. if you're only in the attraction phase then that's all you'll be... but you may be deemed a player/pimp which will lower your value to them. they want a guy who can take care of them, so you need to be that "perfect/nice/adventurous/mysterious/unique" guy... haha if you're around having fun with everyone, trust me... you lose value =/. even if the social proof is high and everyone is having fun. in the long term it doesn't work well. the way you should social proof IS by DHVing and being the center of attraction in big groups. take the lead of the story and frame. tell people things and make sure they're having a good time, then go back to your business of gaming whoever you want. get numbers but set up day 2s!!! if you don't set up day 2's, when you call them they most likely wont answer. i'd say it's best to do any kind of close only when isolated. #-close, k-close, and especially f-close lol.... try to make sure it's always isolated and the right time. and especially make sure any of the other seeds don't see any of this (it works best for the long run) hmmm i know there's more i want to say but for now i'll leave it like this. i hope this helps at least a little bit. everything sounds good so far.... just have fun!! haha... pua lifestyle is the life =), i really need to start sarging again, it's been a while =/ |
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| Author: | Carlos [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:34 am ] |
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Quote: Hey Bro, what do you mean by the dance floor is a trap? Dancing will rarely get you laid. Even if you are a good dancer, you're only getting it if the girl's there to get laid. Conversation will get you laid any time that dancing will, and MANY, MANY occasions when dancing won't.
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| Author: | rawlines [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:08 am ] |
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How dod you go the second night? |
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