PUA Forum :: Why is learning game creepy to women?

The other night I went out with some friends (both male and female friends). One of the females was giving one of my male friends grief about "reading books on getting girls" and being condescending about approaching women. "I wanna see it in action. He reads books on this." Why do girls have to be such bitches about it? I'd like to see them approach a guy that's surrounded by other women.

If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff.

What women don't like is men who are not authentic, not confident, who lie or try to manipulate.

Indirect MM3 does teach guys to say lines and routines that are not genuine, to pretend to not be interested in the girl, and to manipulate using "negs" and other things. A lot of guys who do this spend a lot of time on the internet, were probably quite socially awkward before they got into game, and so generally come off as wierdos when they start doing it.

Your best bet is just to be direct, upfront and honest about why you're talking to the girl.

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If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff.

I think you are overestimating the amount of guys that actually know about PU. There are some guys - yes I agree. But 80% is too much. There are a lot of naturals between them, they just know what they are do.

I can contradict myself tho a bit with this - but it does depend which country your from aswell. I know in Belgium PU is rather small & not many guys have heard about it. But when I look at the UK or USA - it's rather big.

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If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff.

Love:
David Hawkins - Transcending The Levels Of Consciousness
Stephane Hemon - Intro To iG Consciousness
David Deida - Enlightened Sex

It's like the three keys to the puzzle of everything that's finally coming together.

I've noticed recently I explain how I run Game to nearly every woman who comes in my bed now (pun intended).

Here's the crazy thing. Women love me better for it. I've got a woman in my bed who's still sleeping right now who I explained all of this to last night after she and I had an amazing time together. You know what her response was to all of this?

"Thank God you just asked me home and were brutally honest like that. It was... wow. It was a breath of fresh air. Here is a man! Finally! Can you... like... teach other guys how to be this way?"

Mind you, that's a typical response. I've had more than a few of those lately.

Sidenote: Actually... come to think of it, I didn't so much "ask" her to come home with me as say "You. You're comin' home with me" and then leading her there. More experimentation on that one is needed, but so far, so good.

Get this, I have not had one negative reaction from explaining this to a woman. Ever. I HAVE gotten really awesome responses from women. They LOVE this level of honesty, of passion, of genuine desire, of joy that I bring to the table, and I have no problems (read: ZERO shame or guilt) about explaining what I do, how I do it, and why, after our first orgasm together.

Now, would I have EVER done that with any form of "indirect" Game (NLP, TMM, old school RSD or PU101, etc)?

Hell no.

Besides guys, let me tell you, this is a fuck of a lot more fun.

My last real challenge to overcome is attaining complete consistency with this. Some nights I've got all three on lockdown, and I'm a rockstar. Other nights, like the FR - An Off Night I posted the other day, I'm not consistent, and I'm simply decent. Why? Because every time you develop a new skill to replace, and not just supplement, an old skill, it takes time to fully implement the new skill and make it "you".

All it takes it practice.

Hell, it took every "guru" teaching this at least a few years of going out constantly to become masters at the level they are now. I've been studying and doing this consistently for less than a year now.

I've got time.

Author:	SKSpua [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:01 am ]
Post subject:	Why is learning game creepy to women?
The other night I went out with some friends (both male and female friends). One of the females was giving one of my male friends grief about "reading books on getting girls" and being condescending about approaching women. "I wanna see it in action. He reads books on this." Why do girls have to be such bitches about it? I'd like to see them approach a guy that's surrounded by other women.

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:01 am ]
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Quote: The other night I went out with some friends (both male and female friends). One of the females was giving one of my male friends grief about "reading books on getting girls" and being condescending about approaching women. "I wanna see it in action. He reads books on this." Why do girls have to be such bitches about it? I'd like to see them approach a guy that's surrounded by other women. In many ways, it IS creepy. I've ran into several "PUAs" who went around and asked a bunch of lame opinion openers and read the same "script" (read: routine) to every single woman. Except, these guys didn't call women, women, they called them "targets." Also, they didn;t call it "being social and fun" they called it "sarging." In addition, a good number of them wore completely outlandish stuff in a weird attempt to get attention (read: peacocking). That IS creepy.

Author:	Mister Moe [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:50 am ]
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yeah i agree, if your one of those people who just see it as social manipulation gone wrong then it is a bit weird. can't be helped, there will always be PUA's that act like this. I think gambler talks about it. he says that he was a really good PUA at one point, and realised he has no friends male or female. just PUA guys and PUAing. He realized that he was the wierdo lolol.

Author:	new2game [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:28 am ]
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If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff. I walked into the mens of a nightclub, and this pack of beta male's were debating peacocking, attraction blablabla. If you get called on it, just say you have a passion for human psychology

Author:	LyricalDream [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:16 am ]
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Quote: If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff. I think you are overestimating the amount of guys that actually know about PU. There are some guys - yes I agree. But 80% is too much. There are a lot of naturals between them, they just know what they are do. I can contradict myself tho a bit with this - but it does depend which country your from aswell. I know in Belgium PU is rather small & not many guys have heard about it. But when I look at the UK or USA - it's rather big.

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Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:55 pm ]
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What women don't like is men who are not authentic, not confident, who lie or try to manipulate. Indirect MM3 does teach guys to say lines and routines that are not genuine, to pretend to not be interested in the girl, and to manipulate using "negs" and other things. A lot of guys who do this spend a lot of time on the internet, were probably quite socially awkward before they got into game, and so generally come off as wierdos when they start doing it. Your best bet is just to be direct, upfront and honest about why you're talking to the girl.

Author:	SCB [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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Quote: What women don't like is men who are not authentic, not confident, who lie or try to manipulate. Indirect MM3 does teach guys to say lines and routines that are not genuine, to pretend to not be interested in the girl, and to manipulate using "negs" and other things. A lot of guys who do this spend a lot of time on the internet, were probably quite socially awkward before they got into game, and so generally come off as wierdos when they start doing it. Your best bet is just to be direct, upfront and honest about why you're talking to the girl. This pretty much, though don't be completly honest like "Why are you talking to me?" "Cause I think you're hot and I wanna fuck you " though that really should be a given, I've heard someone say it before in a Bar.

Author:	01jonny01 [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:05 am ]
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Its all about being honest to yourself and knowing your goals. My goals is to sleep with as many HB7-10's as possible, because I am quite a sexual person. I may no apologies to any girl about what I do, and I never lie about my intentions. I run my game thru a sexual frame, so they are normally completely aware of my intentions. I even tell them about game aswell, and reading body language. Most of them are fascinated. I actually make out I know lot about social dynamics and psychology as well. Do not use the GAME word, it is a trigger for instant repulsion in a girls head.

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:09 am ]
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Quote: Quote: If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff. I think you are overestimating the amount of guys that actually know about PU. There are some guys - yes I agree. But 80% is too much. There are a lot of naturals between them, they just know what they are do. I can contradict myself tho a bit with this - but it does depend which country your from aswell. I know in Belgium PU is rather small & not many guys have heard about it. But when I look at the UK or USA - it's rather big. Even here in the USA, I would say less than 5% of all men studies PU.

Author:	new2game [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:02 am ]
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Quote: Quote: If its creepy, I guess 80% of men in clubs are creepy. I'm blown away at how many men actually know this stuff. I think you are overestimating the amount of guys that actually know about PU. There are some guys - yes I agree. But 80% is too much. There are a lot of naturals between them, they just know what they are do. I can contradict myself tho a bit with this - but it does depend which country your from aswell. I know in Belgium PU is rather small & not many guys have heard about it. But when I look at the UK or USA - it's rather big. Haha, it must have been the night for it. I was in shock

Author:	Valon [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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Quote: Love: David Hawkins - Transcending The Levels Of Consciousness Stephane Hemon - Intro To iG Consciousness David Deida - Enlightened Sex It's like the three keys to the puzzle of everything that's finally coming together. I've noticed recently I explain how I run Game to nearly every woman who comes in my bed now (pun intended). Here's the crazy thing. Women love me better for it. I've got a woman in my bed who's still sleeping right now who I explained all of this to last night after she and I had an amazing time together. You know what her response was to all of this? "Thank God you just asked me home and were brutally honest like that. It was... wow. It was a breath of fresh air. Here is a man! Finally! Can you... like... teach other guys how to be this way?" Mind you, that's a typical response. I've had more than a few of those lately. Sidenote: Actually... come to think of it, I didn't so much "ask" her to come home with me as say "You. You're comin' home with me" and then leading her there. More experimentation on that one is needed, but so far, so good. Get this, I have not had one negative reaction from explaining this to a woman. Ever. I HAVE gotten really awesome responses from women. They LOVE this level of honesty, of passion, of genuine desire, of joy that I bring to the table, and I have no problems (read: ZERO shame or guilt) about explaining what I do, how I do it, and why, after our first orgasm together. Now, would I have EVER done that with any form of "indirect" Game (NLP, TMM, old school RSD or PU101, etc)? Hell no. Besides guys, let me tell you, this is a fuck of a lot more fun. My last real challenge to overcome is attaining complete consistency with this. Some nights I've got all three on lockdown, and I'm a rockstar. Other nights, like the FR - An Off Night I posted the other day, I'm not consistent, and I'm simply decent. Why? Because every time you develop a new skill to replace, and not just supplement, an old skill, it takes time to fully implement the new skill and make it "you". All it takes it practice. Hell, it took every "guru" teaching this at least a few years of going out constantly to become masters at the level they are now. I've been studying and doing this consistently for less than a year now. I've got time. As you can see, telling them is okay, it's how you tell them and the frame you built around it. If you tell them expecting they are going to find it creepy, she WILL find it creepy.

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