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| Author: | Bo_Darville [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | FR - Sat night, 6/5 |
Ok, so here's my first FR. After reading posts like the one by ChopperSix, I decided to get out there and try my hand at approaching. I was out with a bunch of friends in Newport, it was my friend Vicki's B-Day . We went to this bar right on the water, they have a bar with live music outside, and a bar with a DJ and dance floor inside. We stuck to the outside bar. A friend of mine who is also the BF of one of my close female friends was there with her, and while he's never actually done any of it, he's very familiar with PUA and very familiar with Mystery, Neil Strauss, and David D. In fact much moreso than I am. So we were talking about it earlier in the evening, and once we got to the bar, I said dude, lets do it. So he got permission from the GF, and off we went. First set I opened doesn't count, since it was a set of guys lol, I just did it as a warm up...there was a big group of navy guys, so I went up to them and introduced them to Vicki, and told them it was her b-day and would they take a pic with her. So they all got in on it, and I ended up using all of their cameras to take pics too. First actual set was a train wreck. Maybe we were a bit ambitious with it, but it really was a wide open set. It was 6 or 7 girls, maybe HB5's- HB8's that were on a bachelorette party. I spotted them first, and then completely blew the 3 second rule. I pointed them out to my friend and was like dude, I have NOTHING right now, we need to strategize (this was after a conversation like an hour before where we were against canned openers.....hmmm, maybe we spoke too soon). At that point Vicki saw what we were looking at, and then SHE went over and opened the set. At that point she dragged me over and introduced me to the cutest girl, who it turned out was married. So we had the where you from, how long you been married convo (waste of time). I turn to the others, and my buddy and Vicki were talking to the rest of them, and at that point I felt shut out of the set, since I was standing behind them. At that point I just ejected, and went back to the bar to talk with another friend. I didn't feel that bad since they didn't get anywhere either, they were mainly talking to the bachellorette, who was really not that cute at all. So I'm back at the bar, and trying to come up with an opener, and also telling myself to observe the 3 second rule. So as I'm doing that, a HB7 saddles up to the bar next to me to get a drink. Ok, 3 second rule I tell myself..GO! So I gently nudge her arm with my elbow as I'm shifting in my seat, and when she turns I say: (enthusiastically)Hey! How are you tonight? Her: Good! Me: Hey, let me ask you a question...I'm kind of taking an informal poll tonight... Where are you from? Her: Boston Me: I knew it! ( a little background...I live in Newport, RI, which is a HUGE tourist spot this time of year, people come from all over the country to hang here. It's soemtimes actually hard to find a local during tourist season) Her: Knew what? Me: that you weren't from here I'm actually from here, but everyone I meet is just visiting So what brings you here? Her: I'm here with friends because...blah blah blah A little chit chat,and at that point the bartender comes over with the drinks. She started to turn back to her friend, so I just ejected at that point so I was the one leaving. 2nd set was pretty much the same, except I was really quick with the approach. I used the same opener, with the same result, she was from somewhere else. I chatted with this one a little longer, we talked about some local bands for a bit, and then I just kind of lost momentum and ejected when she turned to follow her friend away. Next set was a revisit of the first set. The bachelorette and another girl were back at the bar where I was sitting, and they were both wearing almost the same thing, a zebra print dress. Hmm I think, time to whip out a neg. So I say to the other girl (who was much cuter than the bride) So what happened, didn't you two call each other tonight to coordinate outfits? You look like bookends! Her: I know! I flew in for this and this is the only dress I brought, little did I know my sister was going to wear the same thing! I honestly don't remember how the rest of the convo went, more mindless chit chat that went nowhere. 2 more sets of bachelorette party girls, different parties. I started one set by commenting on their funny hats, saying I have one just like it at home, and then met the bride, wished her well, and ejected. Next set was when one of the girls came up next to me at the bar, I look over and she has a dildo stuck down the front of her shirt between her breasts. So I said, wow that's quite an interesting accessory you have there. Her: thanks, I never leave home without it! Me: that's cool, is good to be prepared in case you can't pick anyone up, at least you''ll still be all set for later. Then more of the where's the bride, where are you from nonsense, and then she was off to give the bride a drink. After that everyone else was really drunk, so I focused on getting my friends out of there. Lessons learned: 3 second rule WORKS! When I didn't think too much, the approach was easy. Granted, I didn't have the best material, but what counted to me was that I OPENED. ENGAGE THE FRIEND! I think I blew the majority of the bar sets because I failed to engage the friend, so the target walked away when the friend was ready to go. Pick a better place to open. I didn't realize it then, but as I'm wring this I realize since most peole spend as little time as possible being actually right up at the bar, it's not the best place to approach. I only had the amount of time it took for the drink to come, after that the target's instinct was to leave the bar and go back to their "spot" and friends. A good opener is nearly useless if you can't follow up on it. My opener seemed to work okay, but then it really didn't go anywhere. Well there it is, FR #1. This was mainly to get out there and just DO IT, most of the targets weren't even girls I was interested in, I talked to them more because they were just there. So none of the rejections bothered me, it was just the fact that I ejected so often that bothers me. At least I know a big sticking point! Please feel free to comment on anything. |
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| Author: | minsok [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:55 am ] |
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Hey man. I think I know what's fucking you up. You have a destination in mind, a goal. It sounds like you talked to a good amount of girls, but felt shitty about the night because things didn't end up where you wanted them to. You keep up that attitude, you're not going to like going out anymore because you will probably never have the kind of success you think you deserve. It's good to have a goal in mind, but you're supposed to be enjoying the interaction with these women. Not ONCE did it sound like you enjoyed the conversations you had. If you don't enjoy these small successes, this lifestyle isn't for you. |
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| Author: | Bo_Darville [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:08 am ] |
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I see your point. I kinda did have a goal in mind, it was basically to just get myself to open. I've always had a big problem with AA, I'd never quite have the nerve to stat a convo with a girl I was interested in, I'd just kind of watch from across the bar. So what I wanted to do was just talk to some women. I feel that in that aspect, my night was a success. The sets didn't last long, but then again, I wasn't trying very hard either. Like I said, my main goal was opening. And while I didn't have a great time talking to any one particular girl (although the one I talked about bands with seemed cool), all in all I had a good time, because I talked to so many. I'm trying to take htings one step at a time, and step one was to get rid of the AA. And for an update on that, I started a conversation with a HB6 in the elevator at Ikea earlier today. I made a joke about how the carts never want to go straight, and she laughed and we started joking about it and talking for the elevator ride. |
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| Author: | Chopper Sixx [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:39 am ] |
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Great job getting out. Keep the momentum going and make those small conversations (like in the IKEA elevator) with everybody! As the days go on I find myself making small comments to people without really realizing it, and it feels great and it is a great step towards carrying on conversations that you actually want to be having. |
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| Author: | minsok [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:13 am ] |
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Yeah, I used to be really scared making some stupid little joke because I thought people would think less of me and I just wouldn't think of anything to say. Now I just throw it out, even if it's stupid because if you keep up the flow, people will think you're witty anyway and forgive and laugh at even the dumb things you say. But keep in mind, Bo, it's your decision to talk to someone. If you don't like their energy or what they're saying, move on to the next person. If they catch your interest, give her your full attention. Don't just stop at opening, it sounds like you now have that covered. It only takes one girl to make your night a success, don't worry too much about quantity, because there are a lot of quality women in the world. |
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| Author: | Bo_Darville [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:50 am ] |
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Did some more opening this past week. I was in LA for the weekend, which was AWESOME btw. I just talked to random people around the hotel (one of the front desk agents was this super cute Latino girl), and at the clubs we went to. Of course I didn't get very far at the clubs I went to, because it was gay pride weekend, and I was visiting a gay friend of mine, so that places we went were just about all gay. (we didn't realize it was pride weekend till the trip was already booked and paid for) It was cool, I had a good time, but he said just about every other weekend it would have been more of a 50/50 mix. I opened a few hotties in the 2 clubs we went to, but it didn't really go very far because they just weren't into talking to guys. After I complimented thier dress or shoes or whatver, they kind of lost interest after realizing I was straight. At the first club we went to, this one cute chick started dancing with me, then her big dyke of a GF came over and put a stop to that real quick. She did it a few times, I actually thought she was going to hit me at one point. Hey, her girl started dancing with ME, not the other way around. Not my fault. Only action I got was this super agressive girl that just walked up to me, grabbed me, and had her tongue down my throat before I knew what was happeneing. I went with it becasue I was pretty drunk, and the next thing I know she had her hand down my pants and was grabbing my cock. Then I realized she was also sucking on my neck, but by the time I pushed her away it was too late, I got back to the hotel to find a giant hickey on my neck. At the point she had her hand down my pants I was thinking I ought to try to get her into the bathroom to see what happens, but her friends were trying to drag her away because they wanted to leave. Probably a good thing, looking back on it I'm thinking she probably wasn't that attractive. Definitely a Latino chick, and I remember her having a big booty because I kept squeezing it, haha. Kind of a funny story though, getting a hickey from some chick at a gay bar. I actually had fun at those places. My buddy ran interference for me, and we were with 2 female friends, so I didn't really get hit on that much, and holy shit the women there were gorgeous! Some of the hottest I've ever seen. And after spending a week in LA, it's offical - I LOVE Latino and Asian women. Not too common in RI unfortunately. |
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| Author: | minsok [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:58 am ] |
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Ha, good story. Are you sure... your aggressive latino girl... wasn't a tranny? |
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| Author: | Bo_Darville [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:28 am ] |
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Oh that's a disgusting thought. No, I wasn't that drunk, and besides, once she grabbed my crotch I thought it was only fair that I do the same to her. Plus my buddy had my back on stuff like that, he has a good eye for them. He pointed a few out to me that would have fooled me otherwise, which was pretty scary actually. I think she was probably there under pretty much the same scenario that I was. |
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