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Author:  DaBizNOS [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  FR - Any thoughts?
Ok me, not peacocked at all, hair not done, came straight to the club from a lazy day at the pub watching football. Not even wearing aftershave.

So im fairly new this whole PUA thing, ive never had any issues getting with girls before so Im trying to convince my mate to go use a nice simple openerm something like a best m8 routine or can u help me win a bet and name all seven dwarves.... just something interesting. So he wont do it. I wasnt reali in the mood to for anything too much but i thought a few numbers cant hurt, so i go open up a couple of sets, couple of N-Closes and a K-Close (HB7)

Anyway, I see this girl dancin on the podium little cute brunette HB10 without a doubt and her friend next to her was a 9. I go over open the set up by just taking thier picture on their camera and negging every pic, getting em to kiss each other and then jus walking away with out any Kino. Girls are not too happy about me leaving drag me back. Couple more negs and she jus pulls me in and starts grinding, expecting me to move for a kiss. Just to wind her up i get her fone number and leave her dancing alone, go back to my m8s. throughout the night she is texting me to go find her "im by the DJ booth, bring u and ur friends over" i just text back like "u know where i am, u want me come find me" something along those lines. I dont see her again that night and just wait for her to text.... now heres the thing i need help with


She is quite obviously doing her best to play it cool, and shes doing far too well for my liking, however i did use my "3 interesting facts" routine (i say mine, i did come up with it but its fairly simple so sum1 else probably has already) so she texts me randomly one of her interesting facts is that she can put her legs behind her head and is asking what im up to etc. I text back and again she makes me wait

advice/opinions will be appreciated.

p.s. plz check out my post in mid-game section about "3 interesting facts" routine (i may have posted in the wrong place?
Author:  Freemind [ Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:19 pm ]
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Nice work dude, getting into a two-set with two so nice girls!

Critique:

I can understand your reasoning in not kissing her, to not give her satisfaction and control, but instead of leaving her, I would suggest you to isolate her, and keep up the teasing 'til she's practically begging you for it.

Also, I am uncertain in what manner you were texting, but considering it was in casual manner, you did the right thing. As Mystery himself said, an 8 might sit beside you in the couch, but a 10 will sit opposite you. That is a shit-test, and you must whatever happens, stay in your seat until she comes to you, or you lose.

However, this is where it becomes weird in my interpretation. You said she was showing exceedingly clearly that she wanted a K-close, yet she does not feel attracted enough to go and find you? Even if she plays it cool, if she feels that you're the best guy in the place, she will very likely go and find you.

Also, it seems now as if you're moving into phone-gaming, and to be honest, it seems as if it is leading to a normal boring conversation. If you're aiming for anything more than LJBF, you'd do well in making plans for the future, and making sure to actually meet up with her. There is no Kino-escalation over the phone.

I'm kind of new to all this, so take what I've said in your thinking, but don't depend on it too much.
Author:  DaBizNOS [ Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:10 pm ]
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yeah, that isolation is def something that i need to work on... thanks for your post m8... also i completely hate fone gaming too. Im gonna go check out sticking point forum for tips on isolation
Author:  Jeremiah [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:56 pm ]
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The one mistake you did was you didn't reward good behavior, you punished it. When she was grinding on you, showing you a bunch of interest, you didn't show any back. In fact you walk away to see the other girls. See that makes no sense because she doesn't need you to dhv anymore, she is now looking for IOI's and some kino escalation. So by punishing her good behavior, she may be confused and think you aren't interested. There is something as playing a little hard to get.
Author:  denzel [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:27 am ]
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I absolutely despise phone game, cute texting etc its BS! Here is my standard procedure for getting a day 2

#1 When ever I set up a day 2 it is always mention on the first encounter. (for you I guess this is not the case but don't worry it will be fine)

#2 First text. Hi How are you? Which will get a standard reply - good :) how are you?

#3 Second text. I'm good ^^ are you free Tuesday or Friday I want to take you to (park, mall, drinks with friends etc) for me the second text is straight into asking her out, none of this "what are you doing" its "I am going to "x location" I want you to come are you free?" (also don't write do you want to come, would you like, etc) your telling her that you want her "I WANT YOU TO BE HERE, WITH ME" Direct and to the point!!!

#4 From here she will agree, suggest another time or let you down.. :(

#5a Lets pretend she agrees, sort out the details and end with "see you later :)" (the whole ordeal shouldn't take more than 4 texts)

#5b She can't make it that day. Say "no problem, when do you have free time to spend with me?" (hopefully she suggests another time and place, if not she might not be interested)

#6 When the day comes don't message her until an hour or two before the meet up just to confirm.

I hope this can help you

Peace
Author:  Topman [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:41 am ]
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Yeah you clearly built enough comfort with her to easily kiss close.

Isolation would have been the next step, move to another place in the club.

Sounds like the kino was good in this set as well so you should have negged her by giving her alot of kino and then pulling away.

The more you seduce her the more she will seek you out.
Author:  DaBizNOS [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:46 am ]
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Thanks for all these suggestions guys...... damn i see you right now about the punishing good behaviour, like i said im new to the pick up game

anyway after teasing her, with a single text each day, no matter how often she replies, she has actualli asked me out on a day 2 haha..... possibly me pushing her away might be working.... gotta love cat string theory lol anyway im planning on trying out gamblers subtle seduction stuff on the day 2.... i like the sound of it, and i think it would suit my natuaral style quite well..... im not seeing her soon as im off to france snowboarding, but if anyone can think of any other stuff to try it would be greatly appreciated....

Also, goddam i need to sort out my isolation phase, anyone got any tips that would have worked in this situation? We wer dancing, having fun, i was solo so couldnt entertain her friend (i was out with mates, but they arent exactly smooth with the ladies girls.... so i didnt particualrly want to introduce them and they mess it up for me)
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