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FR: Still too many sticking points..
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Author:  Stig [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  FR: Still too many sticking points..
Last night I went with a group of friends to a huge house party.
Tons of people and potential sets. But, I still didn't get as much practice/results as I wanted. I still have trouble opening big sets by myself; I still have a huge sticking point in A2 that I'm trying to fix.. I told these two guys I was with to come with me to talk to chicks, but they were more interested in playing beer pong. When I first entered, I saw this girl I know who goes to my school, I'll refer to her as HB8, said hi and gave her a hug, then kept walking to say hi to the other people at the party. Throughout the beginning I felt pretty AFC because I wasn't opening sets... I was just watching people play beer pong.
Eventually, HB8 comes inside with 3 of her girlfriends to where the beer pong table is. I go up to her and start making some random smalltalk.

Me: Random seeing you here, who do you know?
HB8: blah blah blah
Me: Oh, haha I actually don't even know anyone here, except for you
HB8: something about the people here
Me: Im lying, I actually know a bunch of people here
HB8 starts laughing
-More smalltalk after this for a minute or two

Set opened here, and I came across the same problem I've been having ever since I started. Ran out of interesting things to say. I've written down all my material on paper, and I look over them before I go out, but it just hasn't become internalized yet... I need more practice.

Throughout the whole little convo, I was speaking to her over the shoulder, not giving any IOIs. I was getting a couple IOIs from her... she was playing with her hair, laughing at my jokes even if they weren't that funny, she came into the same area as me. When I ran out of things to say, I just rolled off casually. Went and talked to some other friends of mine in the same area. I took a couple minutes to regain my composure and approached the HB8 set again, but this time with more of a game plan. Here's how it went

Me: HB8 and friends, I need an opinion.
Me: *Whipped boyfriend opener* the-whipped-boyfriend-opener-by-stig-vt64331.html
HB8 and her friends give their input
Me: Ok, so if all of you guys were a flavor, what flavor would you be?
-They all start giggling at this one. My target, HB8 says chocolate, her drunk friend says a mix of vanilla and chocolate, I forgot what the other ones said
Me: So she's the nice girl (pointing to HB8) and she's the wild one (pointing to drunk friend)
-All of them giggling
HB8: Ya she's wild! ( I don't think she got the neg I threw by calling her the 'nice girl' )
Me: I usually get way crazier replies when I ask what flavors people are. ( I think I said something about how they are boring, I can't remember).
HB8 and friends: What flavor are you?
Me: You know those mystery dum dums where you don't know the flavor? I'm one of those..I'm a wildcard
-They all start laughing
After this I did a little bit about how I bought a mood ring so I could figure out what mood I'm in when I'm unsure about what mood I'm in. ( I wear a mood ring when I go out). I put the ring on the drunk friend and said, lets find out what mood you're in. It didn't really change color, but I said that the mood ring says she's fucked up. They all start laughing. Then I said she could give the ring back now.

Me: Do you guys believe in mind reading?
I forgot if they did or if they didnt..
Me: Ok I'm gonna try to read your minds. HB8, think of a vegetable. You're thinking of a carrot.
HB8(shocked): OMG That was dead on! How did you do that?
Me: Haha, I'm not sure, I guess I have skills. Wait, lets try again. Think of a fruit. You're thinking of an apple
HB8(shocked again): Whaaat! That is so crazy
Me: Haha I can read you like a book
HB8: I just think of the simple things I guess
Then after this, HB8's ex boyfriend walked in the room, and she started to talk about how gay he is (literally). I said I heard what happened, and alluded to how I thought she gave him a BJ. She said she's never given a BJ.
Me: You should try sometime, it's fun (I have no idea why I said this).
She starts cracking up
HB8: You would know
I pause for a second, then say the most random thing that comes to my head. Pretty dumb
Me: Yeah, I would
HB8: Oh no.
Me: Nah, I wouldn't. Nvm, yeah, I would. Nah, I wouldn't.
I just went back and forth a couple times in a joking manner, I guess she found it kinda funny.

The conversation went downhill from here. Some of her friends left and we were pretty much isolated. But I didn't cut the "gay" thread quick enough and the topic went sour very fast. I eventually did cut the thread and talk about something else, but I guess it was too late. She went over to another area. I left the party 20 minutes later. Before I went, I went up to her and said goodbye. When I think about it now, I should have said something like "This is the part where you ask for my number". Oh well, I'll see her at school on Monday probably.

Lessons learned:
-Go to parties with a group you're comfortable with. Then, your friends will likely be more willing to talk to girls with you.
-More importantly, Have a bunch of material prepared so you don't have to depend on other people to talk to girls. You should be able to run the room on your own.
-Again, Have a lot of shit prepared so you don't run out of things to say. Practice more to INTERNALIZE your material and become congruent with it.
-Don't be afraid to take a little extra time when responding to someone in order to make a clever/witty response. If you blurt out the first thing that comes to mind, there's a good chance you'll sound stupid.
-Make better use of IOIs received. Escalate more.
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