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| Author: | RealNameMatt [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:46 am ] |
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Friday night was a night of firsts for me. It was my first night going out alone and my first night using routines. Being in college, I am rarely at a venue where there is any need for routines (who uses "The Cube" at house parties?). But I got home for the holidays on Wednesday. On Thursday night I went to a club with some friends and quickly realized how different it was from a house party. I completely flatlined--I had AA (I have not had serious AA in a while), nothing hooked, and I had no idea how to dance floor approach. So I made a plan: 2 openers only: -one conversational: "Oh my god, I was totally going to where that tonight." -one body language one: I would dance into dance floor sets as goofily as possible. I came up with this half-way through the night. A couple follow-up routines: -Basic clothing cold read -Sexy eyes (saw it on this forum, sad to say it worked 0/4 times tried) -Smart test Situational routines: -Thumb wrestling when a disagreement occurs -Bruise like a Peach -BFP Back-up material for lulls: -% of gender good at sex? (credit Adonis) -Book I just read (used to qualify/frame her as exciting/adventurous) The only ones that are mine are BFP, Bruise like a Peach, and the Book one. Otherwise, it is a lot of Brad P based attraction material (I don't read much PU literature, but I have been reading him recently and let me say: gold). Normally, FRs do not include routine lists, but I was hoping I could get some feedback here. Anyway, it is Friday night and none of my friends want to go clubbing. Shit. I go out anyway--the nerves started as soon as the car started. As I walk up to the door I see two girls--HB9 and HB8--about 10ft ahead of me who hit the (short) line first. I almost puss out with the lame excuse of not having time to hook because we will be separated in less than a min at the door. Set 1 Me (to HB9): Oh my god! I almost wore that exact top out tonight. HB9: *laughs* that would have been terrible! (big smile but closed off BL) Me: I know, we would have looked SO stupid! HB9: *laughs* blah blah At this point she is at the window paying, and continues inside after. My analysis: my BL was too open to start--a little more over-the-shoulder would help! Set 2 I head for the bathroom (I legitimately had to go, this was not an escape). I head towards the main dance floor. As I start to dance, nervously, I see a couple cuties on the side of the floor. I dance by and extend my hand towards one of them. Head shake. Blowout. Fuck it, call it warm-up 2. I sit down in the lounge area and pretend to be on the phone. My AA is high. Set 3 Now I go to the basement dance floor and immediately open two girls (HBgrey, HBcheeks) standing on the side. This is where I discover the biggest hole in my routine stack: no group stuff. The target (HBgrey) is hesitant, but seems interested. I open, run CR clothes, Sexy Eyes (she refuses), thumb wrestle. I tell them they were being lame and eject. My analysis: same BL problem--too open at first. Didn't involve both people there. I should have plowed, but I spaced my other material. After this my AA started to clear up. Set 4 One-set HB6 on the stairway: blows open. But she mentions her BF quickly. I get a hug and go back to the basement bar for some water. I now felt immune to social pressure--not because of the last girl, but 3/4 good responses. Set 5 HBmex, HBchub, HBalpha, and alphas BF at the bar. I open the two (HBmex and HBchub) that are not clinging onto the boy. Good responses for the most part, but the vibe I was giving off was a little weird (the CR was too serious that early). I stand in the middle of the set, completely cutting out the loving couple. HBalpha gives me a little nudge and tells me to move a little so she can see what is going on. I try sexy eyes and it fails--I can tell she is a little creeped out. I immediately tell her to dance with me (bad idea). She refuses. HBalpha tells me HBmex will dance with me if I take off the bandana. I ignore this and try to do a group read: awww, so you are the leader. "No, we are all leaders." Her friends agree. So I point out how HBalpha just tried to pimp her friend (a little late on the joke). I eject. My analysis: at this point I realized I needed to lighten up the CR--it was too early for that kind of stuff. Also, better BL. I tried to lock-in against the bar a couple of times, but they wouldn't take the extra step towards me and chose to just yell. Set 6 At this point I am feeling complete calm. I have had little real success tonight, but I see that it does not matter that I am here alone. No one cares! Also, I know I have material to fall back on for once in my life. So I approach an HBkeys on a stool on the side of the dance floor. I run about 5 minutes worth of material. She guesses I am the same age as her, 24 (I look no where near this old--I can barely grow facial hair!). I tell her I am 27. "Really?" "No, I am 16." I give her two choices: dance, or go to the lounge where it is quieter. I then proceed to stand up and extend my hand before she can respond. We dance for a bit. I pull her hair and she is shocked and says I am too confident. But she got really excited, so I think it was a good thing. She suggests going to the lounge. When she goes to grab her stuff, her keys are gone (on a $600 keychain I might add). I help her look for a couple minutes, tell her to check if they were turned in, and then meet me in the hip-hop room. Set 7 In the hip-hop room I reopen HBgrey with, in retrospect, much better BL. I tell her to dance and she starts to follow, stops, looks back at her confused friend, and I say fuck it. I eject, telling them I am going to find some people who are actually fun. At this point I run back into HBkeys (not intentionally, I had left the hip-hop room). Her keys have not been turned in and she is freaking out. She asks me for a ride home--I do not give a straight answer. We sit down in the lounge. She won't stop bothering me about how old I am, so I finally tell her: 19. She freaks out. "You are a baby!" I try to turn it around by telling her that she is like a MILF to me and then later telling her she is old enough to be my mother (hyperbole to show that the age difference does not matter). She laughs some, but is clearly still preoccupied over the whole keys thing. I have absolutely no intention of giving her a ride home at this point because she says she will have to call her mom to deliver a spare key (plus, she is WAY freaked out over the age difference). I am pissed that I am still sitting here, so I get her to call her friends for a ride. I tell her I will be right back, and to be nice when I get back. I go up to a guy at the bar and tell him that she thinks he is really cute and that I will introduce them. I do and then immediately leave. I felt a little guilty about bringing the guy in (he seemed very cool), but there was no way I was going to spend the rest of my night dealing with this shit. At this point I get a call from a friend to meet up and go to an after-hours venue. I go back to the dance floor and dance with a couple girls before their friends drag them away (I am relatively sure that the girls I was dancing with were having fun). I even reopen the first HB9 I saw in line on the dance floor with a great response. She blows open. She is with a lot more friends at this point. I dance with her for a bit and then her friends all leave within a minute without saying a word to her. She sees the last one go and asks "Where are you going?" She says she has to go with them. I say "Alright [name], give me a hug. *hug* have fun tonight." Christ, this report is getting WAY longer than I intended it to be. Last item of note: At the afterhours venue there were next to no girls. I open a mixed 9-set on the dance floor, somehow managing to get everyone involved either verbally or physically (I spin one girl to get to my target). I dance with her for a bit and eject, knowing she is into me and that 5 mins away will make her want me more. When I come back she is all over me. I take her to sit down. We talk for a minute and make-out. More dancing. I take her to sit in the only place wear her friends won't be able to see her (a dark corner). We makeout a bit and I try to stick my hand between her legs, multiple times (all failures). Final note: I felt great about Friday night. I didn't have the tangible results that I would have liked, but before this, I had 0 club game. On the 0 number closes: I had no interest in #closing because day 2ing is a pain in the ass--especially with Christmas and out-of-town family stuff coming up. I wanted in-venue lays (I think Brad P is influencing me). In retrospect, however, this was dumb. I am not nearly at the in-venue lay level. I should have gotten some #s and then worked some text game--even if I was too busy to follow-up. Other thoughts: work on BL. Needs to be less direct. Need to also work on involving the entire group. Any suggestions for getting the entire group involved on the dance floor? Thanks to anyone who managed to make it through this. |
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| Author: | Chim [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:54 pm ] |
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Nice one, sounds like you did good. |
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| Author: | Chillburg [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:35 pm ] |
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I made it through the whole piece! yay me. But seriously: You're doing good analyzing yourself and you just need some more experience I guess, at least you dont have any AA right? You'll be doing better next time you go out, best of luck. Chillburg |
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| Author: | Jiggly [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:37 am ] |
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This is just a thought, but I and a wing have used it at my frat often and it works for groups of girls. What we do is we come in from behind and say something about showing them some cool moves. My wing, Miguel, is normally serious about this as he is latino and is really into salsa, and that gets his girl, and then I play off that by being goofy about it and saying, "I am so gonna show him up. Help me out here!" So we have 2 out of some number of girls dancing together, if it's three, then you're SOL, but if you're four or more you're golden, because the others can keep themselves company. You don't even need to worry about the group game. So then Miguel and I show them some simple twists and twirls, really easy stuff, demonstrating value to them AND their friends, and then dance facing the girls for one song or so, isolating them briefly, while negging them quietly in their ear, building rapport. I often like to make fun of the way they dance, or what they're wearing, or their hair. Then you say, "Ah, I need another drink," and just tell her you'll see her in a bit. You leave to give her friends time to build you up for being such a sweet and interesting guy, and to make her want you even more. Leave, get a drink, make sure she SEES you getting a drink and while doing so open another set at the bar or talk to pre-placed friends(in my case, house brothers.) Do this for four or five minutes. Then leave the room for two or three minutes, make sure she sees this, then come back from another entrance(if possible) tap her on the shoulder, and continue dancing as closely as possible. Your wing should not come at the same time but slightly before or slightly after, with not more than a two minute window. Keep on negging for a bit but isolate her more and more to a corner and then at one point, when the song sounds right, just grab her by the side of the neck, powerfully(girls respond to this in my experience) and draw her in for a deep kiss. If she refuses, which is uncommon in my experience(maybe 1/5 times), you should just freeze out and walk away. She's not worth your time. If not, Bada bing, bada boom. Number close should be relatively straight forward after this. I've had this routine work so many times in my college career that I can't give an exact number on it. |
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| Author: | Snirz [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:35 pm ] |
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Good one...waiting to your next report
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| Author: | RealNameMatt [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:01 pm ] |
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Thanks for all the replies, guys. @Jiggly: Why do you come from behind when approaching? General PUA knowledge says that is creepy, yet you specifically said it. So I assume there is something I am missing? Otherwise, solid stuff. I like the playful style of dance you use, and I LOVE the takeaway/mini-jealousy plotline. The deep kiss sounds good if you are planning on closing that night, but otherwise would seem to lead to flaky numbers--that is my college experience anyway (I am still learning clubs, but am pretty solid at college parties). |
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