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| Author: | speed-bird [ Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | FR San Francisco - 5 approaches all night, sluggish game |
I conducted a little experiment tonight. Usually before I go out I'll review my material, review my canned routines, listen to a bit of NPR on the radio or through a podcast, and get my mind set into a conversational mode. Tonight I tried to do without all of that, just listened to a bit of music while driving up to the city. I was interested in seeing if that was going to affect my game for the worse. I met my buddy and we started off in bar #1 where there was hardly anyone around (probably a lot of people out of town for the holidays, maybe not as many tourists as usual since that place is mostly tourists). I didn't open a single set there because I didn't see any worth opening, it was all couples and shit. * I had a drink of gin and tonic, my first and last alcoholic drink of the night. It was soda water from then on. In bar #2, which is a bit more upscale, the place was packed, the lights were way down low. We went to the bar, I was tempted to open a 3-set (two girls and a guy) behind me but my buddy moved us away from the bar before I could do that. We stood in the middle of the room like AFCs looking around us. I opened the hostess, asked her if she played chess. I was gonna get into a little discussion about how well you can or cannot tell how intelligent someone is based on appearances, but when she said no my buddy asked "well what kind of games do you play?" ** It went south after that. There were two older HB8s sitting down beside us, so I crouched down to one of them and asked what the occasion was. That got the set opened, I was trying for the brunette but she didn't hear me, the blonde did so I went over beside her. Meanwhile my buddy goes straight in on the brunette (rather than waiting for me to give him an intro, so I interrupted myself and got him introduced to the blonde as well). My conversation ran dry very quickly, I couldn't for the life of me find a way to transition into any of my routines, so I pulled the plug on that set very quickly. It was just a warmup after all. We bounced to bar #3 where there was hardly anyone around, we sat at the bar for one drink and bounced again to bar #4. This was a little better. At first I was suffering excruciating Approach Anxiety since the place was largely empty and I find it even harder to open sets if I have to walk across a large chasm of open space to get to them. Soon I opened a five set. Went over to the bar beside the set and pretended to read the cocktail menu, then asked the HB7 beside me (who had a cocktail in her hand) if she was working her way down the menu. HB7's sister started looking a bit bored so I quickly pulled my buddy in for an intro. We worked our way around the set and it was going reasonably well, but again I couldn't transition into any of my routines, the conversation just wasn't flowing for me. Sure I was able to wing it and keep things going reasonably well, but not into any of my DHV stories. I was able to throw in a few Mystery Method items though, like the "guess high or guess low" routine for giving her a hoop to jump through before I jump through her hoop of guessing her age. Once again, conversation started running dry, so while the girls got entrenched in their own thing with each other I moved over to an Asian HB8.5 at the bar as part of a 2 set and opened her with a comment about her bracelet. After about a minute this guy comes over and puts his arm around her and gives her a big hug from behind, but I carry on talking to her while he turns his attention to the other girl. *** I throw in the "how do you all know each other" question to find out if he was a BF or not, she says they're all friends, but he then takes the two of them away with his arm around HB8.5. I go back to the first set again and run some more conversation, including a tounge-n-cheek theme that we'd started earlier where HB7 was joking that she was a lover of one of the other girls. But again things ran dry. We bounced to bar #5 where we sat at the bar and let the HBs come to us. A two-set came along and ordered a few drinks including a mojito. I turned around and said that she was just doing that to give the bartender a lot of work to do. It was a good opener I thought. I handed the drinks to them as soon as they were ready. **** I was fading at this point. We bounced to bar #6 where the place was hopping. We couldn't stay for long because I had to retrieve my car by midnight when the garage was closing. That was it. No kisses, no numbers. ___ Specific sticking points: * Couple or no couple, get the set opened anyway. Just because you're a PUA doesn't mean you're always trying to PU every time you speak, right? Plus, 'working the room' kinda requires that you're seen talking and being sociable. ** My buddy isn't what I'd consider an AFC, but he has no game either. He drinks, checks chicks out without being subtle about it, and has some AFCish tendencies. *** I should have spoken to him to disarm him. ****Maybe I should have asked for something in return for handing the drinks over? ___ General lessons learned: 1 - I need to get my buddy into the pickup game. He needs to learn at least the fundamentals since a badly-trained wing can probably do as much harm as good. 2 - We learned that the bars down by Union Square might not necessarily be a good hunting ground, but the bars on Polk St have become a lot more lively and we'll do that street next time. They're a bit more crowded so you don't have to cross daunting chasms of emptiness to get to the next set. 3 - I learned that it is indeed better to do your homework before going out, and to make sure you have your conversation pieces fresh in your mind so that they'll be ready as soon as they're called into play. I'm also going to resume the practice of making a podcast the last thing I listen to before stepping out of the car. Music helps the mind to relax, but in this game the mind needs to be focussed, active, and tuned in, not relaxed. 4 - I know I only had a single drink, but I fear it might have made my mind a bit sluggish and that probably contributed to my inability to keep conversations varied and interesting. |
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| Author: | Punchl!ne [ Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:28 pm ] |
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Experimenting is a great way to learn. About your mind getting sluggish from one drink... I don't know. I think you can practice your way around that, or simply prepare. I took the time to list a bunch of stories to have in my back-pocket, and I go over that list (I give the stories titles, just to remind myself of it) every time I go out. Not only does it give me something to talk about if I happen to get out of touch, but it made me realize that I've had quite an interesting life. ;D Great lessons learned, though. Especially no. 3 have some importance, I believe. I may not agree to the full extent; but we all play in different ways. |
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