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Author:  Steve Nash [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  FR: Pizza and AFC TV - Help me improve

So I met this HB8 in the train on the way home from clubbing one night. Great chemistry, I was alpha, made her laugh, exchanged numbers, peck on the cheek, you know how it goes. I was really in the zone that night, one of those runs where you don’t even give a fuck anymore about what anyone thinks including your target. Next day she sends me her other phone number too, cool.

We texted back and forth a couple times, spoke over the phone once. I wasn’t feeling it, dull convo and she started about her BF/ex which I basically ignored. On top of this she turned me down twice when I asked to hang out so all this made me decide to freeze her out. After one week she texted me today,
Her: “wanna hang out at my place?”
Me: ”sure, sounds cool, I gotta eat first though”
More back and forth texting, we set it up.

So we meet at the train station, literally 2 seconds into our meeting she is on the phone and speaks the words which put our whole hang out session at a crossroad...
Her: “Mind if my bestfriend(male) drops by?”
After which I proceed to give the one answer that defines the rest of the evening...
Me: “Well, your choice...”

The Gods of Game cringe and I know I will not be forgiven for this. Obviously I’m still not totally reframed into the “I call the shots and we are gonna do what I want, how I want it” mentality.

I also instantly realize this guy is probably in love with her.

We ride the train and walk to her house, meanwhile dropping by the grocery store. We talk some, basically building a little rapport and feeling her out. I begin kino escalating by letting her show me her nails (pretty fake nails, I like) so I hold her hand. Later on she talks about her weight (she is on the skinny side but still hot) and drops the remark...
Her: “I wouldn’t know where to put the extra weight anyway”
Me: “Well, here”
Then she acts totally natural about it, I guess because I act totally natural about it.

We arrive at her flat and the guy’s already in front of the building. Also for a split second I see shock when he sees me. Now I KNOW he is in love with her. I sense he’s a beta right away. My sense is affirmed soon enough when I enter all doors (elevator, hallway, front etc.) before him and he lets me. When seated he pulls in his legs when I walk by. He looks down when I talk to him. Basically I take possession of the territory.

HB8 puts a pizza into the oven so now we’re all just watching some TV and laughing at her pet bunny that she let out of the cage (well, she and I laugh) while we wait for our “diner”. There’s a terrible American AFC flick on where Long-Time-AFC-Bestfriend declares his love to Moviechick, she panics, goes off with Cool Guy but then realizes AFC is her true love and eventually they hook up yadda yadda you get the picture. At the end HB8 laughingly turns to her own bestfriend and says:
Her: “That NEVER happens in real life”
Bestfriend: “...” (he was pretty quiet the whole time actually)

How I failed to detect the IRONY of this in the moment is beyond me. But because I’m unaware of her cruelty, unintentionally I chip in. With a straight face I say
Me: “... wack movie man...”
She laughs at my remark while dude stays completely silent. That shit was HARSH.

So I enjoy my little AMOGing but I realize all this isn’t going anywhere fast. I knew it had been a mistake to allow her to invite the dude but the damage was done so it was time to move on to my current options. A little of my thought process:
“I’ll be damned if I sit here all night not being able to get some, my time is too valuable for this shit! Ok, what are my options... I could go caveman on them, state that this isn’t working and tell her friend it’s time for him to leave. As I’d cement my status of alpha male to her for all eternity, I’ll fuck her brains out on the couch as soon as the door slams shut behind dude, while her bunny runs rampant through the living room. OR I could go back home and study for this upcoming exam which I should’ve been doing in the first place... Yup that’s it”

Realizing there is probably no pretty way to do this I decide to just do it as soon as I’m done eating, which is kinda jerkish but fuck it. So I finish my pizza, wait for the commercial block (we’re watching Law & Order now), get up, bring my dirty plate to the kitchen, put on my jacket and announce I’m leaving. She doesn’t even seem surprised, guess she understands why I’m leaving. We kiss each other on the cheek and say something along the lines of “we’ll talk soon”. I give the dude a handshake and twist my hand slightly into the up top position while looking him in the eye. He looks down. I’m off.

Conclusions
Good:
- Constant alpha male BL and state.
- Felt irritation whenever she wanted to take the lead, which means my alpha male is coming out naturally.
- Successful AMOGing, basically all through BL and EC.
- Given the circumstances, reached a nice level of kino escalation, rapidly.

Bad:
- Should’ve controlled the frame more aggressively. This was apparent in so many different aspects. I did try breaking through her frame through behavior, but next time I should use more verbatim to do this. Simply stop a girl and tell her how I want it done.
- Not enough “I don’t give a fuck”. Period. Should have told HB8 “Hey you know what, I’ve changed my mind. Cancel your friend please. Yes? Great. No? Alright I’ll go home than”


As for how I should proceed. I think I should make it clear to her that next time it should be just the two of us. Not in an accusatory way, because honestly I had the chance to prevent the situation, but rather say we’ll have a better chance of getting to know each other, something along those lines.

Please give me your thoughts.
- Is this a good way to proceed?
- Any comments on my conclusions?
- What do you think she is thinking after this evening?
- Anything else, please comment.

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