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As I promised (Lean in VS Talk louder)
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Author:  EvoJ [ Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  As I promised (Lean in VS Talk louder)

Okay, this is including Friday and Sunday. Basic trial test of whether it is better to almost yell or to lean in.

Throughout the weekend I made attempts at a total of 8 sets. 5 where I talked loud enough to be heard guaranteed and 3 where I leaned in and whispered or spoke softer and made up for it by being closer.

I was really suprised by the results actually but they could be off. When I was at a club I was trying out the talk louder. That didn't work at all. I was almost screaming and it made me look like a total jackass. 1 number close... barely. Probably a fake lol.

On Sunday however, I was at a pool party with some friends. they had the music pretty loud and with the other people there it was difficult to hear. I practiced the lean in variation (3 sets or so). I got K-close and a # close.

Over all here is what I learned. When you talk extremely loud you really do look like an idiot ESPECIALLY if the music hits a low point (man that is embarassing). And when you lean in your body language is off. What I found works best is that you just get close enough to not have to yell AND so you dont have to lean in.

Oh and my numbers could be off because I got the K-close while IN the pool and she was outside of it and so I was leaning on the edge of the pool to talk to her and stay afloat.

SO yeah, basically I would suggest neither. If anyone has an alternative besides the "Get close enough to not yell" then let me know.

EvoJ

Author:  phenom [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:21 am ]
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i think where u were at matters E. personaly i dont tell the diff. unless ur like doing either one to the extreme ( dont lean in so much disregarding personal space, dont talk to loud like your yoldling on a mountain). what i have a good success at is pretending that they smell good while i go in for a sniff on the neck just start talkin at the same level all the way back to my normal posture at that point she'll lean into me just by human instinct, it also lets u know if their listening. i havent tried that as an opener but works well in the comfort stage and as escalating.

Author:  topshelf [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:57 am ]
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while not to experienced, i always try to lean in and make it so that she needs to make an effort to hear me. I'll try to get some kind (cheek to cheek, or my lips brushing up her cheek). Usually this works and i can usually bring my hand up and put it on her back or on her neck (between her neck and her hair). that area seems really sensitive to the touch (when i touch the back of my neck i get tingles and turned on, so i wonder what the effect of it is on women). anyway that usually works, it only works when i play the classy/cool guy, not the class clown that will stick his wet finger in your ear. make sure you set yourself up correctly, otherwise it could be bad...

on a final note, DONT have bad breath or your screwed.

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