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Author:  Restarted [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Restarted out and sarging: 2-day story!

Hi,
I am in another town in Sweden right now for work and I have been out a couple of times (bars, clubs etc.) with some work colleagues but this is a 2-day story which happen this weekend.

Day 1:
Me and two guys were looking for a place to take a beer around 11 PM. We ended up at a place with an out of “outside” bars as well as a lot of people. We enter a place and it is very crowded but I see two girls sitting alone so I approach them while my two friends are going in to order a drink. We start to chat, introducing us and all five of us are having a good time. It is a HB6 and HB8 and I am sitting next to the HB8 and I am mostly focused on her. I remember that she asked me some standard questions and I said “I should have better answer to this but this is what I do: I work with etc. etc.”. I should really have better answer to these standard questions and I have said that before but it is so obvious that the standard answers are really boring.

We are sitting at a table with a wooden couch on each side and the other girl is sitting next to my colleague. To my right I have the HB8 but to my left I have my third colleague which sits a little bit outside and he always tries to steal the show. I notice that he is after both of them (i.e. anything).

We talked a lot and then we walked to a club with British pop influence which I don’t like at all. We were there for an hour or two before we went the next place which is more of a techno place which I prefer. At this place we almost went right in to the dance floor and started to dance. We are now three guys chasing two girls and thinking back of the nights I (we actually) was very needy. I should have “pushed” the girls a little bit i.e. trying to get into another group of people or something but I was afraid of giving my colleague more room to advance on this girl. Bad move of me. She wasn’t that special and my chances would have increase a little bit if I had “pushed” her away and becoming the prize, not the needy one who thinks she is the prize.

After a while I was a little upset that it wasn’t going my way so I told my friends I was going home (and they tagged along). I took the HB8’s number and thanked for the night with a hug.
Things I should have done better that night:
• More kino escalation
• More push-and-pull (i.e. not so needy)
• More negs when we were sitting and talking
• Better answer to my standard questions

Good things I did:
• I opened a two set
• I was pretty social
• I had a good time



Day 2:
First I started to text the HB8 during the day and asked them what she has been up to today etc. After some texts she asked me if I and my friends would like to meet up again later tonight at a bar. I called her up like 45 minutes after the text and talked to her instead and said that we would meet at bar X at 11 PM.
My third colleague, the one who tried to pick up the girls as well, was with some other friends this night so it was only me and this other guy. Me and my colleague went to a bar and ordered a beer and started to talk to each other and then the girls come. I wanted the HB8 to sit next to me but the HB6 is going first and as I am not towards the door she naturally sits next to me. This was bad. My colleague started now to have this conversation with the HB8 and I with the HB6. I wanted the HB8 so much more (even more now when she sat next to my friend)!

It was like we 90% of the time we only had a conversations with out dates now i.e. I only talked to the HB6 and my friend to the HB8. After a while the HB8 started to IOI my colleague and that put me a little bit out of balance as well. I did only receive a very few IOI’s from the HB6 back.

Anyhow, we are going to a club nearby but first we need to meet up this third colleague again (I didn’t want this but of course I didn’t say anything about it.). He arrives and immediately starts to take the scene by kino both the girls and trying to lower my value towards the girls. This also put me really out of balance. I was thinking of going home. Fucking shit. I should be able to control my feelings and AMOG him back or whatever. He is my colleague and should help me, not destroy me.
This really fucked up my mood.

We entered the club anyhow and it was an “oldies goldies” theme with good songs. It was a very good SPAM in the club. The third colleague left the four of us from time to time but always got back and tried to sarge the girls again.

We were at the club for an hour or so when the girl needed to go (they had said this earlier this night because they were going to go somewhere). We all gave them a hug and left them.

A couple of things I should have improve:
• Don’t be so fucking needy! Go hunt some other girls! Show that you are “the man” by merging some other group. Show them you are the funny, cool guy to be with. You are the prize! Not the needy one who can’t let a set go!
• If you are going to stay then do your business i.e. kino, more push and pull etc.!

It was a pretty good weekend overall but I wanted to get in the HB8’s pants but when I reflect over the weekend I was not sarging very well. A good thing is that I only drank two beers totally on Saturday so I was very sharp and could reflect on the situation much more (however, not act on it the way I wanted!).


Also, I feel much more comfortable approaching girls at bar and clubs without being totally wasted. I feel that my social side is being improved very well but my mid-game is horrible. I have ordered some literature and I am going to read a lot about it. I feel that I put much of the stuff I read into practice as well but you more I learn the more I see how little I know ;)


However, it is a very good and fun journey as well!


/Restarted

Author:  Restarted [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:42 am ]
Post subject: 

I just read this thread:
frame-control-defining-reality-and-bein ... 34530.html

I am from now on going to handle these kinds of situations by ignoring the person who is trying to lower me in front of my target. I will not react and give him more to act on.

/Restarted

Author:  Mike Lowrey [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:08 pm ]
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You got some good points out of it! But you should really really really have a word with your pal to stop dissing you infront of strangers/newly met people. If he continues to, I wouldn't hang out with him. Bit of fun between friends is fun, not with people you hardly know.

Also, Stormies thread is excellent, if you haven't read it all I'd advise you too! I copied it all onto a word doc so it isn't interupted by other posts :oops:

Author:  Restarted [ Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:47 pm ]
Post subject: 

Quote:
You got some good points out of it! But you should really really really have a word with your pal to stop dissing you infront of strangers/newly met people. If he continues to, I wouldn't hang out with him. Bit of fun between friends is fun, not with people you hardly know.

Also, Stormies thread is excellent, if you haven't read it all I'd advise you too! I copied it all onto a word doc so it isn't interupted by other posts :oops:
Hi Mike,
thanks for input!

I don't go out with my friend regulary but if it happens again I will definitely do it.

I have read Stormies whole and I think is great. I am trying to applying some different "stuff" to the social part of my life so that I will have higher social proof and be "The Man!" but it is really hard. But I will keep on trying and just trying to open up more set, be more open (about everything (sex as well)) and more talkative etc.

/Restarted

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