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Author:  omegaphallic [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  FR: Empathic Loop Theory finally gets tested in the field

I almost didn't go out. I looked like swamp thing after work. I washed up and got changed and went anyways, although I didn't have a lot of time.

I went to mall and started off by opening a cute blond in a store by asking her about these wooden massage thingies. I flirt a bit, but then switch to WMA(whose more adventurous) opener, and it goes well, but I get clumsy when I try a new routine, a personality test about travel and I cock it up.

I do a bunch of situational openers, crack a few jokes, get a few laughs. Nothing to write home about.

I decide to sit in my thinking chair, a massage chair outside GMC, and figure out what to next. I'd completed the first half of my mission, I'd opened over four girls, but I had yet achieve the other part, the more important part, testing the empathic loops on a chick. I finally open HBBraces withsome situational opener, and it turns out I had opened her with it before! Ha, no big deal, I make a few jokes about my memory and we talk. I say I'm flattered by the fact that she remembers me and she says she has a good memory. Evenually I decide to bail, but before I do, something stops me and I body rock instead, and say something about the nice smells of the shop triggered a memory, about an epany I had, empathic loops.

I fucked up the delivery badly, but I finally did it. I don't think she was an idea deal candiate, because she has taken psychology in the past, but even with the fuck up, it lead to an interesting convo. If it wrong I was kind of turned on by her braces? I blame the cheerleader with the big tits in the movie Be Cool.

I finally leave, to go do what I was planning on doing, having completed my mission, (I love calling it a mission, makes me feel like a spy or something :twisted: ), then I see a cute girl on my way off manning a both and I decide spur of the moment to go for extra credit.

I open her with a question about the jewellery she sales and she tells me its isreali, something called Sha-blul? propably fucked it up already.

Anyway, she teaches me how to pronounce it, a difficult task, and I ask her some questions about Isreal, nothing political, and transition into talking about Haiti, I tell her about how I read Rainbow and the serpant, about how amazing it was that Haiti was the only country to have a successful slave revolt, and talk about this Mary Loinz clip where a guy is possessed by a good spirit.

I use the above book to transition to an Empathic Loop by saying it inspired an epany within me and this time it went far better, I mean it was still rough, but I mangered to get the basic functon out of it.

It seemed to work really well for what I did and the sloppy way I did it. When I first started off she was cleaning something, rarely looking up, but as the empathic loop started to built up, she started to pay more and more attention, it seemed like she even got mini ddb eyes, although I'm not experienced enough with that to confirm it with certainty.

I fuck up the emotional enhancer (empathic loops will be explained in detail in a moment), so starts to lose interest, partly maybe because I failed to anchor it. So I switch gears I did something I feel guilty for, something that wasn't warranted, but was good practice. I did a negative empathic loop between her and her boyfriend when he wasnèt even metioned.

I ironically put this one out better then the first loop for the most part, yet didnèt anchor it to anything which is good thing this time.

So without further ado, this is my empathic loops theory:

An Empathic Loops is a Roleplay that focusses on human empathy between two people to generate intense emotions. It potentional uses are nearly endless.

Iève tried to boil it down to a basic formula.

Intro + person A Projects E(emotion) + person B Recognizes & Imagines E + B Projects combined E + A receives E & Pictures it clearly + A projects Total E to B + E gets more intense every time it is cycled from one to the other + describe the emotional process within her + anchor the cycle + emotional enhancers

Here is actual example:

Me: ÈPretend we just, and for some reason your really euthastic to see me, youèd project this via certain body language, such as smiling, talking fast, giggling, and I being an observate person would recognized the signal and because I have a good imagination, Ièd picture it so clearly it I would be feeling your euthasism, which would generate my own euthasism on top of that, which Ièd project back to you maybe by a friendly touch on the arm or shoulder, which you being an imaginative person would recognize and add your euthasism, which you project back to me via a sparkle in your eye and greater proximity, and every time the euthasmism moves betweem us it get more intense, building off of the emotions already there, every time it cycle between use you feel the euthasmism growing more intense, it startsa getting to point where all this pleasuable emotional engery between us are so strong you canèt seem to stay still.

At this point you can keep going along with route, or though in emotional enhancers which is anything intergrated into the interchange of emotions that either intesnfies them faster, makes the experience deeper, or causes it to evolve in someway like adding a new emotion to the mix or an embedded command. Emotional enchancers could be anything from patterns, to C&F, a new emotion, more context for the RP, some kind of DHV story, whatever.

An emathic Loop is hard to get started, but once start it snowballs by nature.

A Negative Empathic Loops is a BF destroyer, only instead of creating a RP between you and her, its an RP between her and her BF or possible between
her and an obsticle, using negative emotions and imagery, such as anger, fear, hatred, ect...

Of course there are also Twisted Empathic Loops, where instead of generating the same emotion when cycled between two people, it produces two different emotions. A dark and unusable example would be rape. The Lustful actions of the rapist generate the rape which conveys his horny feelings to the victim, who abosorbs that emotions in an indirect way, generating fear in her, which the rapist recognizes, which generates more lust in him, although he recognizes her fear in a distant way, so as not to generate the same emotion in himself, otherwise heèd run away in fear.

I also have plan to develop an Empathic Loop not between me and target, but between two targets to encourage a threesome.

Ièm also developing a Multiperson Empathic Loops Theory.

I first figured out the emathic Loops when writing and reading erotic stories and noticing it, in lesser forms appeared, as well as the fact that most erotic stories that are written by men tend to focus on the womanès POV.

Author:  alentravorski [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:42 pm ]
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Your emphatic loop theory sound like approaching with high energy and bringing her into your reality through confident body language and a driven intent (the delusional thought that she is happy to see you), so that she would want to start experiencing what you feel by your shear energy. She would see your 'self', and become infatuated by its presence. This is like a more mechanical version of some of the more natural RSD theories.

You have interesting theories haha.

Author:  omegaphallic [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:24 pm ]
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I didn't have high energy at first, although I admit it built up during the empathic loop, as because I'm no more immune to its effects then she was. I guess by starting low engery I was pacing her reality and then leading it, ironical drawing strength and engery from her fictional passion, which by drawing her in I made real, which meant I could drawn more of it into myself?

It like I created a self sustaining, self expanding reality.

The way I see it, it was an RP that the draws strongly on and shapes empathy, focuses highly on emotional and senory processes like SS/NLP, shows dominance and is therefore a strong DHV. Plus as an RP that requires little of her active particapation beyond visualing it, it has great flexiblity to incorpate other stuff, such as push/pulls, sublte dhv stories, cold reads ect...

It also I think would transition nicely into a kind of incredible connection pattern, that draws on the connection the empathic loop created, which in turn can transition into some kind of our world.

As to a resemblence to RSD, I have no idea as I have no real formilarity with their stuff beyond that they seem to focus heavily on AMOGing which is something I haven't experienced yet, although my life during the past decade was largely shit until recently and still being reconstructed as we speak, so I may end up AMOGed yet, I look forward to it :D .

Still they way you said it rings at least partly true.

PS. This still needs lots of testing so be patient as I iron out the bugs of this, I don't advise anyone else using it yet as this was the first tests on someone other then myself. Of course if you wish to do an Empathic Loop on yourself, be my guest, it very fun way to built up excitement I've found when doing it on myself.

PSS I'm thinking about how to add Meow's purekino stuff to an Empathic Loop, it's easy to incorperate imaginary kino into the descriptions, so it's something to think on.

PSSS I agree with pulling her into my reality, because I make imaginary worlds all the time in my head, I don't even need tv, so it like I'm a GOD in my imagination, so if I pull her into my worlds, my multiverse, it's like I'm her GOD while I'm there. Sorry for the GOD complex I'm developing :twisted:

Author:  alentravorski [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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You are over-thinking pick-up man. That's my point. That's why I said 'mechanical'

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