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Author:  Tigra [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  oh man I could have done much better...

In my previous post in the closing and day 2 section, I talked about this girl I had met at a bar and she had lost her phone that night. So seeing as she didnt have a phone, she gave me her facebook. I messaged her a couple of times over facebook and she did not reply. Last week I randomly met her at a party and straight away started off with the negs about her being "too cool" etc. It worked a charm, she begged me for a second chance gave me her phone number and had to leave.

This weekend I messaged this HB10 and we were texting back and forth for a while. That very night I went out and was sarging a group when all of a sudden i feel a pinch on my ass. I turn around and there is HB 10.

Me - "Hey.. Where have you been?"
HB10 - "In your dreams"
Me - "Haha you wish buddy..."
HB10 - "Haha its true I really do wish"
Me - "I heard your leaving tommorow - sad face"
HB10 - " -sad face as well"
HB10 - "hey listen! I have to go my mate is gettin gpissed"
*kisses me on the cheek* I point to the other one and she lays one on there as well.

She then hugs me and grazes her hand down my chest and walks off....

Should I take all of these as IOIs? Or is it something they just do haha.
I couldve done with a really good reply after she pinched my ass.

cheers :twisted:

Author:  Fu$$ [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:26 pm ]
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Shes just sending "mixed signals", shes driving you crazy with her interest and indifference at the same time. You know Swinggcat's Push & Pull? Is that.

Its a very effective way to put a bunch of guys in her control, cause she hides her real intentions, and in the same way, she knows youre interested. A dirt trick.

Fu$$

Author:  Fu$$ [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:43 pm ]
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I think two old posts of mine could help you to understand what I mean:

Women's unconscious mind and irrational behavior

So, I want to talk about the typical problem with women: Why we cant hear what women says at all.

The unconscious mind is in opposition with the conscious mind, this is the reason why we cant know someone just hearing what they think about theirselves or why people dont do what they preach. To know someone we need to observe his behaviour and actions in different situations and spots. Beyond this, some people do this incongruences deliberately! All of us know about female's conduct, they play with our feelings and emotions, and if we don't act as a MAN, they throws us to the garbage. WITHOUT passion.

We heard everytime women saying about their "DreamMan", as someone who really cares about their feelings and do everything to make such bitch happy, we're catch in this trap, this hollywood fuckin concept of ideal man. Women really dont wan't us acting this way, they're cheating. They says "we hate some kinda of bad boy or don juan, all we want is a man who love us unconditionaly". BULLSHIT. This is the Mr. Nice Guy trap, the ultimate lie to keep away bastards. And if some guy follows this, he will never be happy with women.

Take care when a woman begins a sentence like this "I like man that.. that makes that, that says that, bla bla blahhh", she's probably lying, in the love and sex field they dont responds rationally (even men responds rationally in those fields). DONT YOU TRY TO FIT THE IDEAL OF MAN CONFESSED. Don't waste time asking, just observe and you will discover it. Women rejects caress, they repay men's caress with indifference, but they love to retribute men's dominance with caress. Isnt women fool?

Undestand female's mind is extremely important to suceed with such lovely bitches. The stupid preference for the worst make almost impossible the happiness of women in relationships. When they discover theirselves deceived to another bad guy, women starts that old bullshit: that every guy is bad, that all men are lyers and just want sex (probably this is part is true, but's okay, let's moving on ), when the really guilty for such things are women, they dont know how to choose a man! If pickup artists exists, the main reason for that is such trait of female behavior. I mean, a PUA isnt the best guy for a woman, you know that.

Typical guys don't attract women simply for their believes in women's lies and words about theirselves. All that guys take is the opposite of the desired results, while the worst guys dont seems worried to female's will, and even don't care to lie and pretend to impress women and get the results so FAST as possible. They're rewarded with high quality sex e caress. You can see that everwhere, women simply don't change, so we've got to CHANGE us if we want to pickup beautiful women. Change in a way that women feel attracted easily to us. Everybody is here for this purpose. Isnt?

See women as sentimental robots, who need such "profound" emotions and feelings as fuel to their "souls", and don't you forget that robots can't change their "programs", they're programmed in this way. Change your behavior with women and women will changes also, because their "program" is done to answer accord your behavior, if you're jealous for example, something on their mind (or program) will able the repulsion switch. Why? Just because women are equiped with repulsion switches that repel LOSERS. In their unconscious mind a jealous guy can't find a better match, this is the main reason for a loser's jealousy. If they can't find a better match he's not so attractive for woman at all, he's not a alpha male, so "WHY I'M STANDING WITH THIS FUCKIN ASSHOLE??".

In this angle, women's irrational mind looks very useful, don't? The essential purpose of that program is find the better match as possible!

BE WHAT WOMEN WANT EMOTIONALY!


Why we can't polarizate the relationship


We can define the hability to handle with women as the art of right administration of our good and bad actions in the right situations.

If will be exclusively goods, we will be betrayed. If we be exclusively bads, we will lost the reason and will give to them motives to a future vengeance. The ideal is be placed between the good and bad, being cruel or kind according the situations, without ever be polarizated to one side.

Ever keep the reason with you, and never be unfair. In this way, you will be able to tell the truth about her mistakes and dishonesty pitilessly, destroying tottaly her defences.

Act as you are dominating a wild animal. Reward the honesty, the transparency and loyalty with caress, dedication and protection, or even gifts. On other hand, be pitiless to punish her dishonesty, attitudes that seems suspicious, confuse or ambiguous, the same on the subtle treachery. If there's a sort of true regret by acts not so serious, which is rare by the natural falseness of female sex, be comprehensible. But take care with the crocodile tears.

Oscillate according the situation, without ever be fixed in the good or bad side. Don't you act exclusively be good or bad, confuse her (send mixed signals). Be fair. Never punish her if she doesnt deserves, because it will legitimate the resentment. If you trespass, be fast to correct your mistake.

Habituate her with you presence, not with your absence. If you deviate from her with too much frequence, your partner (or target) will be used with your absence, and everything gonna be fucked up. On other hand, if you be always present, your presence can't be valorizated. Again, the ideal is deviate or to break with her only in the right moments, this means that you can do this when occurs an attempt of cheat. Nevertheless, those moments needs a total and prolongate isolation. Don't waste your time accumulating resistance: if you suffer to two days without call or search her, but be weaken in the third day and search her, you need to start again the score.

Is always necessary to compensate your stiffness with protection. The full time indifference and distance cold the relationship.

It's a common mistake of the inexperienceds be fixed on kindness or wickedness. Instead of obtain the wished results, all they can get is just the opposite. To master a woman is necessary oscillate per the imposite necessities by her stupid games and keep you above the female's futility and mediocrity, hability that claims the radical death of our weakness and imperfections (inner game).


English isnt my first language, sorry any stupid grammatical mistake. i hope this help you!

Fu$$

Author:  Tigra [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:45 am ]
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Thanks Fu$$ you little essay really helped my thoughts on the persona of most women. However, lets cut to the chase. What is the best thing to do in my current situation?

cheers :twisted:

Author:  Fu$$ [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:31 am ]
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Man, there are a lot of things to work:

Tease her, be playful, some kinda of Cocky & Funny, low her value and up yours! Shes a 10, these beautiful girls are the main reason for why we pickup!! Show disinterest, make she feels insecure until she makes you fool.

I recommend you a great book of Carlos Xuma, Secrets of Alpha Male, another nice option are the Vin DiCarlo's books. These materials will bring you tools to build an attractive image and lifestyle, develop you masculinity and learn how to use it on your game. Crucial pieces to the pick up.

I think that the two most important things are what Ive said above: tease her (as a way to show her that youre not impressed by her beauty and to up your value) and create and attractive and masculine image.

Hope I help you dude.

Fu$$$$$$$$

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