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Author:  Music28 [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Field Report #2

Alright, FR #2 time. Last night was my Birthday bash, so i went out to this killer rock bar. It's intimate, great music, but they don't blast it so you can actually talk to people. Great for game!

Anyways, since I was there with a big group, all there to celebrate my birthday, DHV wasn't really a problem. lol.

I noticed this group of about 4 girls, and 2 of them were wearing almost the exact same shirt, one of them an HB8 that was my new target. So i opened over my shoulder to the set:

Me: You know, you two should really start calling each other before you get ready
Obstacle: we planned this actually
HB: Yeah we planned this out
Me: Oh ya? you two must be good friends then. How do you know each other?
HB: blah blah
Me: Sounds like you're best friends. Here, let me test you.
(ran BF test w/shampoo)
Girls: (laugh)
HB: ya that's us

HB Kino's me

Me: whoa, hey now. hands off, this aint for free
HB: sorry!
Obstacle: we're touchy feely tonight
Me: i can see that.

They end up talkin to some other friends who interrupt, so i turn right around. Get some of my female friends to hug/dance with me in front of them (DHV).

They start to take pics, so i use the 'caption' routine, and offer to take a pic. Take a pic, tell the target she made a really stupid face. Take another one, tell her she's a lost cause. More kino from her.

We bond a bit, talking about where we're all from. Most of her friends are from out of town, but she lives in the same city as me. I take pics of us, tell her to kiss my cheek, she obliges.

Night goes on, more cheers-ing etc. I end up meeting her out on the dancefloor and isolating a bit. And then THIS is the line that worked the best out of the whole night:

Me: You know, HB, there's something i need to tell you.
HB: what's that?
Me: well ever since i saw you, I really wanted to tell you but wasn't sure how to go about it.
HB: ok, what is it?
Me: you've got something in your teeth
HB:(SUPER embarassed) oh god! What? why didn't someone tell me?!
Me: i dunno, what's with your friends?!

we laugh

i run the 'beauty is common' routine, she is receptive. I isolate, and we build comfort. Talk about real shit now, jobs, where we're from, etc. Lots of eye contact, she gets real close and comfy. I DHV, telling her about my band. Use some NLP, pointing to myself while saying the important words like 'passionate' and 'reliable'.

Then, her friends take her outside as she's feeling 'spinny'. I offer to hold her camera (to lock in) but she insists on taking it. After that, I ended up getting very AFC, unfortunately. Her friends were sitting near where i was, and i think i looked a bit too eager for her to return. Didn't really talk to her friends.

She gets back, she's definitely overly drunk (and so was i at this point)... so i try some negging, some kino, and nothing much works really. we dance a bit, and i get a kiss on the cheek, but she's definitely moved on.

So... here's what i did wrong:

-didn't disarm all obstacles
-didn't escalate quick enough
-did some things in the wrong order
-not enough cat and string.

Other than that, it was an awesome learning experience. A month ago, i would have just watched that girl from a far, probably creeped her out, and definitely wouldn't have ever talked to her more than an under my breath 'hello'.

I'm improving, and have only been out a couple of times. So, i'm excited about the possibilities of the future.

Comment away!!

Author:  FakeDrake [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:14 pm ]
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i think the only actual problem was the slow escalation.
i would have attempted Klose when u isolated her..or at least have said sth like "i've got to go back to my friends now, ill call u some time"(and she gives u her phone number-#close)
i mean even if u didn't do well with the obstacles they were nowhere to be seen

now the cat and string... i think u did pretty well(u neged,u danced with ur female friends...what else did u want?)
as for the order...since u accomplished comfort as u said i think it was ok.

in other words: u did a very good job generally but in my opinion u missed a good chance


Oh and nice opener u used...
most useful! tnx!

Author:  Music28 [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:21 pm ]
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yup, i agree! escalation was my issue for sure. Also, when i isolated, i didn't isolate enough... we were one one side of this booth, and my friend and fiance were on the other. Now, we were definitely isolated because we were talking right to each other...... no cross table conversations or anything. But i think i was probably a little bit weary, as my friend was somewhat close. I was thinking k-close but didn't want to do that in front of them, and #-close didn't cross my mind at that point.

I think there was also a BIT of one-itis going on. I was seeing things, in my mind, that her and i would hang out all night, talk, maybe makeout, and number close at the very end. See, that's an issue, i think: waiting until the END to #close. What i should have done was MAKE it the 'end' (by returning to my friends), and getting her number. Great advice!

Thanks for replying.

Author:  FIKSHEN [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:32 am ]
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we could freak our friends out by pretending to make out

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