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Author:  Cock_roach [ Sun May 10, 2009 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  My first successfull FR - in a bus. Number close
I was coming back home by a bus. I get in and took a look aover the passengers. The I spotted her - green jacket (it was late), green baseball cap, black hair. Our sights met. I smiled to her and she smiled back. Within minute or so, we exchange looks one more time. I knew she expects me to open her ;)

The bus was full of people, so if I approached her, our talk would be heard by tens of people. She wouldn't fel comfortable. So i took another strategy. I waited until she gets out (fortunately, that was also mine bus-stop, I had some time to find a good opener), by the way, I could saw a she moves her ass, it was hot :) then I have been following her for a while, approach her from her back and put my hand on her shoulder. She stopped in turned to me.

COCK_ROACH: Hi, are you in a hurry?
SHE (a little confused but also glad): No, Im not
COCK_ROACH: I'd like to ask you a question. Where did you buy your cap? You must have let it tailor made
SHE: I haven't heard of making caps by the tailor
COCK_ROACH: I haven't either. Thou the cap fits you so well it's impossible you bought it in store.
SHE: Hahaha
COCK_ROACH: It's impossible because it has the exact colur of your eyes (they were cute green :) and I know you did it on purpose.
SHE: Did what?
COCK_ROACH: You were throwing seductive looks from below the peak of your cap. You have a look that attracts men. I assume you're femme fatale. I'm scared of you. But meeting femme fatales is wort risking being eaten alive
SHE: hahaha. You're cute. Anyway, I didn't think you will approach me
COCKROACH: Why not?
SHE: Don't know. As I was getting out of a bus, you were still sitting (truly, I got out in last second so she couldn't notice)
COCK_ROACH: That's because I always act from hiding, like a predator in a jungle. Anyway, where are you returning from?
SHE: From college
here, a little of fluff talk....
blablablablablablabla

COCK_ROACH: (after 4-5 minutes) Well, I gotta go. You know, I have been enchanted by that peak of your cap and your seductive sight. I think I became an addict on it. So I feel a need to see it in nearest future. How about exchanging phone numbers?
SHE: I'm eager to meet you closer (smiles). Here's my number ::
COCK_ROACH: Well, It was nice to get acquainted. Bye
SHE: For me too. Bye

MY ANALYSIS:
Well, I haven'n kept to PUA rules many times:
1) three second rule has been broken - the bus journey lasted c.a 15 minutes.
2) I approached her from her back
3) I was the one who proposed exchanging numbers

But I acted not bad in my opinion, because:
1) I took signals she was sending me in a proper way
2) maintaining eye contact
3) a little of humour
4) I draw her attraction by talking about her (seductive looks)
5) I didn't let the talk to last too short or too long - I gave ust another information about myself so she decide to meet me and short enough to not let her get bored.
6) I complimented her current look, so that wasn't common opener.
7) the final goal has been achieved :)


PUAs, comment on it, give hints, evaluate :) [/b]
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Sun May 10, 2009 10:39 am ]
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You did great whether you stuck to "the rules" or not. The outcome of opening is to get an outcome. You did that perfectly in the form of a number.
Author:  Cock_roach [ Sun May 10, 2009 12:09 pm ]
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Well, I thinks it was much easier as i actually got IOI from her and I was definitely in her type. No bitchshield, no shit test - for me, the worst is the fear of the rejection at the very beginning - as she caught contact with me and gave IOI, I became very confident.

Sticking tiothe rules - I think sometimes is better to adjust rules to the situation - in the case above 3 sec rule would not be the best way out in my opinion. Sometimes current situation forces to have creative approach.
Author:  Mr E [ Sun May 10, 2009 2:57 pm ]
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Hi bro,

neat shit!!!!!!!!

This kinda stuff really is gold. It motivates me so much to hear of others actually having success. Reminds you that success is a reality. Gives everybody hope.

Let us know how ya do.
Author:  prefix [ Sun May 10, 2009 5:35 pm ]
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Nice! I like the tailor part. I almost lived the same situation, but when the girl got out of the bus she walked in the other direction, and I really had to get to school on time since I had an exam. I'll try to use the tailor opener in the near future :) Thanks and keep up the good work!
Author:  Leo5 [ Sun May 10, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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Thanks for the post man
The tailor opener was a good one
may be I'll try to use it in a field test
good performance overall
keep it up
Author:  Cock_roach [ Fri May 15, 2009 5:46 pm ]
Post subject: 
great thanks for all replies. Well, it's always one crucial moment when you have to decide: approach or not to approach. The second gives you a moment of relief, because you don't have to do anything, but than comes a bad conscience. "I could have tried and because of my fear and laziness I fucked it all".

But the first can have two ways out. Successfull or not successful.

Successful - here you get the prize of your effort and you feel yo're on the winner side.

Unsuccesful - you have failed, but:
1) during the try of approach you increased your self-esteem, because you got know, there is nothing scaring about trying to picking up a girl, in worst case ypu may be ridiculed.
2) you feel what was done bad by you
3) you get familiar with the fact, you can be rejected by every woman, so it should not affect your self - esteem.

P.S Today I'm gonna try out the number collected that evenings - have thumbs up!
Author:  Mr E [ Fri May 15, 2009 9:51 pm ]
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Yo, Roach,

Like you say, you choose not to go for it all you will always get is nothing.
however if you give it a whirl, then there are thus two possible outcomes.

and one of those is succeeding like you say.

on day game, how long would it last more or less. i mean should I be looking to get into major conversation or like "style" reading the girls future or whatever.
There are so many scary possibilities that my fucking mind just jams.

anywy, best of luck with the hottie,
E
Author:  TheHustler [ Mon May 18, 2009 12:26 am ]
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Approaching from the back in day game is appropriate. You touched her on the shoulder to get her attention good. Also being direct is ok too for day game because your going underneath the radar girls in bars and clubs have to beat off the guys they dont like alot. Really they like it in day game. the second thing to do after direct open her is to make her laugh. I'm not the expert but have read about day game in forum by the expert londonsoul. He expertises primarily in day game. So you basically did do alot ok.
Author:  Clozer [ Mon May 18, 2009 2:46 am ]
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Honestly man, I had trouble even believing this story was true. But you seem like a credible guy and you're sticking to your story. Maybe the culture is different there in Poland. If girls really are that easy then I gotta go and wing with you man.

Out of all due respect though, I have to say I didn't like your lines. Why? Because all you did was build up her ego. You didn't make her fight for validation. She could have been a bitch and shielded you out. Fortunately things worked out for you.

For example; had it been me, I would have said,

Me: Is that cap tailor made?
Her: No. Why?
Me: Cause I didn't know they made caps for heads that big.

See, she would laugh AND get her ego (if any) cut down a few notches. Now you have something to work with.

Okay man, I know I came off a little negative here, but it's not my goal to make you feel bad or anything. Just my opinion and some advice. But anyway, you got the digits and a good connection so good for you. Let us know how it goes.
Author:  Cock_roach [ Mon May 18, 2009 5:25 am ]
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Closer, you're absolutely right. I admit there was a few mistakes in my approach. Especially considering tha fact she was quite hot (around HB9) adn a few negs would also work here. I think I succeded because she really liked me and gave me so much IOIs that I was sure, the approach will end successful, regardless of what I say.

Ok, not sompletely regardless of what I say, but I didn't failed complying to most important rules - time constraint, kept eye contact, maintained self- confidence, made her laugh, so I think it just was enough in this case.

She just expected me to approach her. She didn't expect me to be master PUA. She just liked me and was glad I caught her interest and did something with it.

Thanks for constructive critism, that's what I need the most.

Cheers
Author:  freelanc3r [ Mon May 18, 2009 6:29 am ]
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Nice opener, i agree with adding a neg just in case
Quote:
Approaching from the back in day game is appropriate. You touched her on the shoulder to get her attention good. Also being direct is ok too for day game because your going underneath the radar girls in bars and clubs have to beat off the guys they dont like alot. Really they like it in day game. the second thing to do after direct open her is to make her laugh. I'm not the expert but have read about day game in forum by the expert londonsoul. He expertises primarily in day game. So you basically did do alot ok.
Yeah, day game is a lot different to night game. This was proof that you don't have to follow exact criterias during the day to get girls.
Author:  Cock_roach [ Mon May 18, 2009 3:36 pm ]
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Quote:
Approaching from the back in day game is appropriate. You touched her on the shoulder to get her attention good. Also being direct is ok too for day game because your going underneath the radar girls in bars and clubs have to beat off the guys they dont like alot. Really they like it in day game. the second thing to do after direct open her is to make her laugh. I'm not the expert but have read about day game in forum by the expert londonsoul. He expertises primarily in day game. So you basically did do alot ok.
Hustler, you're right. Maybe in a club I couldn't stand a chance with that kind of approach. Anyway, I also prefer a day game. As for me, it's more unpredictable and spontaneous. In a club, everything goes in accordance with some schemes.
Author:  BenedictMSmith [ Thu May 21, 2009 5:20 am ]
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i think girls b/c they secretly want to believe in all those movies with chance occurrences (See Sliding Doors or Wicker Park or a million others) are receptive to direct approach in a non club/bar place.
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