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Author:  Bo_Darville [ Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  1st report: HB8 Bartender...

Ok, this is my first report.

I went out tonight, and for the first time decided to actively strike up some conversations with females, and put to use the things I've learned here in the past few weeks.

I go out alot, but it's usually with friends to hang out, so I never really try to pick anyone up, or run any game (typical AFC).

I decided to give it a shot tonight.

I went to 2 bars, both were dead. Very few targets, none that I was actually interested in. The friend I went out with brought 4 other people that I didn't know, 2 girls, 2 guys. First thing I did, to be social, was make an effort to get to know and befriend the other guys. I know, sounds gay. But as someone w/very few guy friends, this took a bit of effort on my part and actually went well. So now I have a repore with the group and don't look like a loner. Also some potential wings.

Then I started on one of the girls. Got into a conversation w/her about work, where she went to school, how she know's my friend, etc. Once again, normally out of my comfort zone. HB9, I'd say.

Like I said, club was dead. Only people on the dance floor were three dudes, hardly any chicks in the place. As I'm thinking I need another drink, that makes me think of an opener.

So I go the the HB8 bartened, and we exchange ":hi, how are you's", then I ask her:

"Ok, so fess up, what did you do?"

her: what?

me: what did you do to scare all the girls away?

her: starts laughing, and says "no kidding, right?" and goes on about how funny the guys dancing are.

Me: so this isn't a normal occurance?

Her: oh no, not at all

Me: oh good, I thought you might have turned this place into a gay bar

her: another big laugh "oh no, it'usually dead on fri night, you should come back tomorrow.

Me: Oh, I'd love to, but I'm going to the Pelham (the bar downstairs) tomorrow to see Fast Times (80's cover band)

Her: OMG! I'm working there tomorrow night! You need to come see me, I'll buy you a drink!

Me: Ok, sounds good. I'll def be there, so maybe I'll come say hi.

Her: Definitely! come see me!

So then we exchange names, and I take her hand, then go back to my friends.

We'll see what happens tomorrow night.

I'm going to try and get another conversation going, and hopefully number close.

Between the fact that I know the band (very popular in the area), and the main, hot bartender there knows me and takes care of me, I should have plenty of DHV.

I'll post updates tomorrow night.

Author:  lckillah [ Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:14 pm ]
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haha good job man. definetely major ioi if she gonna buy u a drink. did u meet up with her last nite?

Author:  Mithos [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:41 am ]
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Nice dude, I opened a bar tender HB8 and before the night was over she gave me a pass that makes me skip the line and get in the club with no cover charge. I find that the best way to open hired guns is with a neg. But for the record never be afraid of going sarging by yourself. You can use that fact that your friends didn't want to go out that night as a DHV.

Author:  Bo_Darville [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:09 am ]
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Ok, so here's the update.

First off, I need to re-rate her. After seeing her again in better light, I'm going to call her a 10. Physically, this girl is EXACTLY what I like.

Anway, so I went to the bar we had discussed. I went with a female friend of mine that I go out with alot.

The night went well, but not as well as I'd have liked, I made some mistakes, but also made some progress.

Getting right to the bartender, I went to see her, and as promised, she gave me a drink. Unfortunately, the place was so packed and the bar so busy that I had zero time to talk to her.

So there's mistake #1, going to a bar I know gets crowded with the intention of talking to a bartender and not getting there early. If I had done that, I'd have had more of a chance to talk to her.

Normally I'd let it go, but I'm going to keep trying with her. I'm not putting her on a pedestal, but she's too beautiful NOT to try again with. I'm going to go back to the friday night bar, I'll have plenty of time to talk to her there, since she told me it's dead there on Fridays. I also learned that my friend in the band knows her, so there's an "in" with her too.

That was mistake #2, not taking advantage of that right away. But by the time I found out, it was the end of the night. She was cleaning up and getting ready to leave, and I had had too much to drink by that point and had lost focus.

Mistake #3, having too much to drink. I think a few drinks loosens me up a bit and helps, but more than that is definitely a disadvantage. I lose focus and turn into a goof when drunk. It's ok when I'm just out w/friends, but from now on if I'm going to be sarging, drinking will be kept to a minimum.

Ok, so there's the bad. Now the good.

Besides the barteder, I opened and held a 2-set and a 3-set.

The 3 set was actually funny. I recogized one of the girls, an Asian, from the last time I was there. She was dancing on stage and acting a bit wild. So I leaned over to her and mentioned it. Before she could answer her friend chimes in:

friend: hey, just because she's asian doesn't mean she's crazy!

me: what does that have to do with anything? It's not like I said she was good at math

Asian: actually, I AM good at math. I'm an engineer.

me: ok, well way to reinforce a stereotype! now stay out of this, your friend and I are talking.

I went on to get their names, and had a little small talk. They weren't that great looking, none higher than a 6, so I got bored after a while and went to the bar.

Got to the bar and opened a two set, a girl had on a cute hat and I complimented her on it. She took it off and waved her hair (blonde) around abit before putting it back on. To me this seemed like an IOI. Told her it was a good look for her, then went back to my friend a few feet away after I got my drink.

Little while later, I went back over to the bar where they were sitting and said to her friend:
hey, I need to ask you a very important question
her, looking at me seriously: sure, what is it?
me, putting my drink down on the bar: can you keep an eye on this? I'll be right back.

Her blonde friend says sure, and grabs my drink and pulls it closer to her.

I got back from the bathroom and talked to the both of them for a while, and negged the blonde when she got up to go outside and smoke, which backfired a bit, because they were BOTH smokers.

I talked to the friend for a while, then the blonde came back, and the friend went out to smoke. So then I talked to the blonde for a while.

Friend comes back, and I think to myself, ok I've spent alot of time (too much, in retrospect), time to go for the number close. I had gotten some kino in (some light shoulder and elbow touching, and a hug and hi five) so I thought it was a given I'd number close. So I tell her I have to get back to my friends, but I'd like to call her sometime. She says "I'd love to give you my number, but I can't. I don't give it out". I didn't know what to say to this, so I figured I'd try a neg: What?....oh...you think I'm hitting on you! Oh that's funny. No, I assure you I'm not hitting on you.

She says oh no, its not that, I just don't give out my number ever. And then the blonde chimes in and says "really, she doesn't, as a rule".

So I shrug, and say ok, maybe I'll see you around town, and then I leave. I wasn't that interested, so no big deal. I just wanted to get the number. I probably should have gotten the blondes number, but I didn't want to hear the same story twice, so I didn't try. I also thought that doing that would be a DLV. Plus I had kind of disqualified her anyway, she was from out of town, and a smoker, which is a huge turnoff for me.

I went and talked to a few other random girls, but nothing big.

Anyway, I think for the most part the night went well. I didn't meet my objective of number closing, but I DID do some opening, which is primarily what I need to work on right now. Considering I've never really set out to do this in the past, and normally have horrible AA, I think I did ok.

It's funny, I've only been on the site about a week, and have only really been in field twice now, but my confidence level was way up. My female friend was kind of making fun of me as I was telling her about negs and openers, etc, but she remarked towards the end of the night that she could see it was helping, that my confidence seemed way up.

It's great man, it's like a state of mind. It was fun walking around feeling like a hunter, that all the women there were potential prey. I'm getting into that mindset, that instead of thinking these women aren't interested in talking to me, that I can talk to ANY of these women that I want.

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