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| Author: | rigoberto [ Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Building a Homecourt Advantage |
Alright, I'm a little bummed out, because after I finally broke through with a oneitis girl I was pursuing throughout the summer (advice from this forum really helped push through some tough points). Anyhow, she moved out of the country yesterday (her resistance was a result of her not wanting to get close to someone just before moving out despite the fact that she really liked me). So to "celebrate", my friends insisted that I get it out of my system by heading out to this bar we've been to a few times. I'm finally settling in on some regular spots here in Munich, and it's really backing up what a few people have mentioned in this forum of how feeling at home somewhere really helps your comfort level. Anyhow, this time my buddy brought along a female friend (HB7.5) beyond the normal group we go out with. She came with a guy "friend" that the other guys didn't know, and I couldn't tell if they were together or not. We started chatting right away, and after we did all the typical introductory convo stuff, she mentioned that she lived for a short while in New York, which gave me the chance to DHV and talk about some of the other cities we've been to. We're getting along pretty well, making good eye contact. At this point, I'm mostly just being friendly, because I've never been a fan of trying to break up couples, but I'm starting to get the impression that her and the other dude are not together because they don't have the typical BF/GF kino going on. We're all taking turns buying rounds, and it's finally time to hit the pisser. Just outside the hall to the bathroom, there's a sweet looking HB8 brunette talking to two dudes; she seemed a little over-dressed for the location, but she was pretty hot. She's in mid-conversation with these guys and I can't wait to piss, so I just start walking by, and then she reaches out and runs her hand through my hair - alright then. I'm not mentally sharp at this point, but I recognized an opportunity here and I stepped closer to her. In hindsight, I would have liked to have responded with some kind of counter kino, but at the time, I leaned in and said what's up. Anything smooth you guys would have done here? Out here, "Do you speak English?" is one of the first three things I ever say, and she responded with "Sort of", so we were sort of on... It turns out that the two chumps were just really clumsily trying to pick her up, so I figured I was just her escape valve - whatever, that's cool. I make it a point to ignore the guys completely (not punk them off, but just to make it clear I'm here to talk to HER); I think they got the picture and left. She's definitely on the tipsy side, but we're talking and I'm getting some drunken IOIs (clumsy hair stroking, smiling sideways stare into my eyes, etc.). Things are going well but she's clearly not all there. I'm realizing that trying to impress her with conversation isn't really going to work here, and by now nature is REALLY calling, so I tell her that I've got to go but I'd definitely catch up to her later. We exchange smiles and I take what had to be a 2-hour piss thinking about that encounter. Would it have been worth going for the drunken grope (90% sure it was there if I wanted it), or was taking the high road the better call? I head back to my table and my buddy gives me a little background on the first girl and her "friend". Turns out that she is single and the dude actually lives in a different town. However, when I looked over, he was clearly going to town on the kino - he was gaming. I was gone for half and hour, so I guess he made some progress... I sit back down, although it felt different, because now I'm officially gaming and I'm competing with someone who has built up a good head start. We kept communicating, but I could see that her attention was now split between me and dude (I had her full attention before). Is there anything you guys would have done to push the other guy back out of it (keeping in mind that it's a friendly table, so I'm NOT going to be insulting). We all eventually get up to dance a little, and we get some nice touching going on, but she's definitely trying to go between me and the other dude. I'm not interested in playing around in some sort of contest, but a funny diversion kicks in when a girl (I wouldn't call her ugly but I wouldn't rate on the HB scale either) starts grinding behind me. I choose not to engage, but we're dancing and she's starting to put her hands on me, which is starting to make my target jealous. She in turn tries to make me jealous by dancing a little more closely with the other dude, but I play it off like I don't care. Not long after, my target and the dude are leaving (she drove them there, so I'm not sure if this was a good or bad thing). As she comes to say goodbye, I tell her "We had fun tonight. We should get together again soon." I get her number and we hug and kiss (on the cheeks). Later on, I see the second girl I met by the bathroom. She is clearly half in the bag and is standing up on a table half-dancing, half-leaning against the wall. Okay...... Soon my buddy says we should go. HB8 was on the way to the exit, so on the way, I stop by her and figure what the hell. I call out to her and she gives me a recognizing smile, so I hold out my cell phone and gesture at her to put in her number. She eventually manages to type it in along with her name. All good I suppose, but I can see two problems: 1) She may have just given the wrong number (I'll find out tomorrow) and 2) Once she sobers up, there's a good chance she won't have any clue who the hell I was. Still, it was cool to be able to N-close without having to say a word and without having to really ask - I think this was about body language and confidently handing the phone over like it was just expected. Ah well, two interesting situations, both of which may or may not yield much in the next week. I've definitely found a place where I feel comfortable, and I noticed how much of an impact that had on my attitude. AA is much less of a factor when you come off like HBs are coming to YOUR HOUSE. I've got a few other spots too, but I think things are starting to look promising here... |
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| Author: | Shatter [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:53 am ] |
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dude, respect. that was a well played night. you didnt ruin anything by going in to heavy with the first girl or ruining a possible friendship by insulting the other guy. as for the other girl, who honestly cares if she doesnt remember you? if its the wrong number, nothing wasted. if its the right number and she doesnt remember you, hey its a fresh start! start joking around and telling her all sorts of stupid stuff she did that night. just remember, if it doesnt workout with either, there are plenty more out there and your just getting more experience every step of the way |
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| Author: | rigoberto [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:17 pm ] |
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Thanks man. I'm waiting a bit more to try and work things out for this weekend with the first girl, but I was really curious about the second girl and whether I had her actual number. Turns out it was good and she actually remembered me, although the next challenge is that her English is not much better than my German! The language barrier (common problem for me out here) combined with the fact that we didn't really get too far the first night told me there would be high flake potential if I tried to set up some kind of date. As such, I just told her I'd be back at the same bar Friday night and we should meet up there again, and she said yeah, she really likes that place so she'd be there. That way, if she doesn't come, no sweat - I'm back in friendly confines ready to give it another go. If she does, game on! |
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