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| Author: | Sayon [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | what should i do, not totally failed #close |
Today i went to the mall and a beatifull brunnet with blue eyes talked to me offering some help... Me: (looking for some socks) She: Hi, can i help you? Me: Um (looking at her eyes in a funny way .. ) .. nope and can I help YOU?? She: (Smiles and start to leave) Me: But wait yes ( she turns and give me attention) you can give me you phone number (smiling) She: (smiling a lot) Ok you want my help or not Me: haha ok im looking for some sock but a white ones.. She: there´s no white only what you can see Me: Oh ok, i will keep searching.... After seraching the fucking socks i pick ones, and approach her once again. Me: Hi ok im gonna take this pair She: Ok no problem go and buy it over ther... Me: Ohh i thin you will come with me but don´t worry thanks... Well i Started to look some other clothes and shit, after a couple of minutes i leave the store, but i pass walking by next to her, and i say Bye and she replies... Well the cuestion to you guys if it is necessary to go tomorrow and be fucking direct because she gives me a lot of IOI, and she doesn´t say NO to me at all when i ask for her number, say something like this " Hi, listen i work near hear and i only have a couple of minutes, yesteday you really took my attention, my names is SAyon... bla bla bla.. then hook her attention with someothing and a little kino then #close Im Asking this beacuse i think i lost the opportunity.. and i think i dont´s lose anything if i go and do that... because she was fucking HOT... any tips? PD: Well im new in this site and im from Chile so my english isn´t pretty good, hopw you can understand Bye Guys |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:10 am ] |
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You have balls but no game. Read up and study more. Learn the fundamentals and processes involved in meeting+attracting+closing. |
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| Author: | Fogell [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:03 am ] |
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Quote: You have balls but no game. Read up and study more. Learn the fundamentals and processes involved in meeting+attracting+closing.
LOL I dont mean to laugh but that first line was pretty funny. I agree with Kasabi when he says read up and study more. Then apply what you learn into the field. And the more you practice, the more you will be able to determine what material works better than others.
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| Author: | Sayon [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:31 pm ] |
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thanks fpor the replies , yes i admit went to fast for the # but was because i just want to act confident and direct in a C&F or banter way... i´ve been reading a lot so i don´t want to read more or watch other programs, i just want to overcome my AA totally and act confident, i don´t like some structures of some PUA´s i just prefer act confident and naturally but obviously with a structure, i´ve been trying this structure coming from RSD open-hook-touch-vibe-(venue changes)-number-close i don´t like the structure of "what if the girl say this, yo must say that, you know what i mean... Well guys im going to go and be direct with the mall girl.. later i post the results Bye Take Care |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:12 am ] |
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No no . . . I'm not suggesting you go with canned materials. You don't need canned materials if you can come with your own. The problem is that you still don't seem to UNDERSTAND the fundamentals so there is no way for you to come up with any effective routines. You wanted to act "confident" but you went the "weirdo ask a stranger for her number" route. PUA's don't really react to what HB's SAY but rather to the build up of rapport and unique changes in this "short term relationship". When you asked for her number at that store, you guys were total, complete strangers. Now you're going back to add insult to injury with the total "creppy stalker" routine? This is very, very bad. For the your own good, abort mission! Pull out! Pull out! If you want to go hard core direct, that's what you do. You fire that rocket up, "Honestly, I don't need any help with socks. I just came over here because you're just so damn beautiful I knew I'd kick myself if I didn't say hello to you." Otherwise, go under the radar, remove those bitch shields 100%, "Talk about her job, her shirt, blah, blah, blah . . . work hours . . . weekends . . . friends." BUILD RAPPORT. MAKE CONNECTIONS. Yeah, let's hang out, "# close." Done. You gotta go one or the other. Shit, your wishy washy "Give me your number now" routine would creep me out. What the hell do you think girls will think? If it's too late and you've already gone back to this girl, I'm taking 50 to 1 odds on a blow out. As I posted earlier, you're thinking with the wrong brains. You say you read but you clearly didn't understand. Have some patience! The "pounce" open is what AFC's should try out to just teach themselves that it's OK to actually communicate with women. You're beyond this stage now. You know you can open. Now it's time to add some strategy . . . now the game begins . . . |
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| Author: | Sayon [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:45 pm ] |
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thanks Kasabi youre right... if i go to the chick and say something like that like the sock really didn´t care im just there because i like the girl completely changes the situation , im just putting my balls on a plate, that's cool.... hard but cool.... i think i don´t feel confortable enough to think in the situation the right moves..... i need more practice... i can open right, now the next it´s to build my game, im still going to talked to her... every rejection is a brick in my palace (quote from Hoobie) Thanks buddy |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:35 am ] |
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Sayon, The point of this very forum is to increase closes and decrease failures. If you now know that you have to work on a certain aspect of your game, why not work on it? What's the hurry? The funny thing is that the more you WANT to close this girl, the LESS you need to hurry. hb's can smell desperation. Shit, I can smell your desperation just from your posts! This is very, very bad. Stop thinking about her NUMBER. Stop thinking about her lips, tits, ass, pussy, etc . . . She's a human being. Engage her in conversation. Listen to her. Waste your time a bit. Tease her . . . The close comes AUTOMATICALLY. The less hurried you are, the QUICKER the close. Relax. Loosen your belt. Unbutton the top button on your shirt. Is there anything particularly wrong with # closing her after 6 separate meetings? Wouldn't that be a whole lot better than blowing up and having her spread a rumor throughout the whole mall that your a weirdo, stalking creep? Think about this . . . |
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