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| Author: | Qlass [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Closing the Deal |
So Thursday night I went out to three different places - first was a party with free food and Booze, which was a good place to do some pre-drinking. Due to alcohol's wonderful effects (I call it Liquid Courage), my approach anxiety dropped to 0. I met a lot of girls that night, some went well, but on the whole I was pretty much a chode the entire night. I opened a 2-set of girls with one of my buddies (he served as my wing that night) with a simple "HHHEEEYY!!!!" she responds with the same. I say "GOOD TO SEE YOU!" and she said the same, and we get a conversation started. Eventually one of the girls asks me to get her a drink (mind you drinks are free). My FIRST shit test ever. I ask her what she wants, then turn to my wing and have him go get it. Not sure if that's a pass or not. But it doesn't matter because the conversation eventually runs dry and I eject. My wing comes back with the drink, I'm not there, and he gets pissed. Yes, not my best performance. As the night goes on I approach a bunch of girls. I meet a lot of new people, and on the whole work on my inner game. Even though the alcohol started to wear off, my momentum kept me going. We go to a club because the one we wanted to get into was crowded. I approached a 3-set, but got the "I'm just having a good time with my girls tonight, sorry" reply. Fine, cut my losses and move on. I approach a 4-set of blondes; now say what you will about Mystery Method, but the whole "Let me ask your opinion" opener got me right into the set. I asked about a friend of mine who's going through some drama with his g/f, and the girls all ate it up. I tried to show them that bottle trick I mentioned about in another post, and I couldn't pull it off (oddly enough), but the girls were still interested. My problem however, was that I eventually ran out of things to say or do. Mind you I was just sitting with the girls, and they weren't trying to leave or kick me out or anything, I had fully assimilated into the group. But I didn't know what else to do, or what else to say. Eventually I decided to just eject. We eventually get into the club we want and a friend of mine introduces me to this other really beautiful girl. I try to get to talking but, again, get stifled with nothing to say. I realized this: The whole "Can you dance?" or "Teach me to dance," or "Show me your moves" bit does not work. Those lines didn't work on any girl that night. I kept getting the "I've got no moves" line, and yet the girl might still head off and dance, or even start grinding some other guy. I felt like a total chode. So here are my sticking points: 1) I run out of things to say, feel awkward, and eject. I may have a bar trick or two to show if the tools are available, but a natural shouldn't need that. 2) I have trouble thinking of something to say, sometimes I may have no AA but instead get stifled before an approach. 3) I have a little trouble AMOGing, but that's not a huge deal right now. But my biggest problem is closing the deal. I don't know how to escalate the situation and attraction. My flirting really has no direction towards a definitive goal. And I can't pump the "buying temperature". So, any advice guys? Q. |
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| Author: | Neo-the one [ Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:15 am ] |
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Have a routine stack. Internalize stuff such as The Cube and Strawberry Fields. Also have some interesting stories to tell. It can be about the square root of three, as long as you show good energy and enthusiasm. Mystery's Hollywood sign story is great to use, but I tell it as a story about a friend. Magic tricks are good, too. But the main thing is to be able to tell your stories, and being quick on the uptake. remember, women are naturals at running game, and you have to have your game tight to out-game them. Practice, practice, practice! When you are done practicing, practice some more. Your skill set will come as long as you practice. Learn more openers as well. I have asked the hottest babe in the bar if she was trying to grope me as she walked past, told them they have something on their shirt and when they looked, I busted on them for buying it then introduced myself. After you open: DHV, neg, routine, fluff, send IOI, fluff, routine, and so on. Have your stack on a piece of paper in your back pocket, like Style. Or if you have a Blackberry, put it in your memos. You will appear to be texting or something while looking at your "pocket wingman"! That can be a DHV in itself, as it makes you appear that you are "in demand". Hope I helped. |
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| Author: | Abdul-aAfc [ Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:52 pm ] |
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I know booze gives you courage to approach, but that is probably the reason why you are so unsuccessful. Try sarging without alcohol and you will probably be able to remember a lot more pua material. 2nd tip. it sounds like you are very very good at opening and keeping your target's attention but you can't really lead it from there. What are your intentions? Are you looking for a girlfriend or a one night stand? Once you really delve deep and realise your intentions you can begin to know how you can worl towards them Just sort out the f-close side of things and you are on your way to Master Pua All the best |
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| Author: | -Achilles [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:37 am ] |
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as i see it (this is a mere apprentice opinion) when u approached the 4set of blondes with such a good result, in the sense u totally conected the group, and ran out of material, the best choice would have been to ask one of those girls to dance, and so in the dance floor, have [some] one on one conversation, as in isolated personal questions. if thing keep going well i would have asked her how about if we go get something to drink and talk a bit more comfortable,, and so u are in for the final stage [at the club] as i said i'm nothing more than an amateur and PUA apprentice so i could really use ur opinions about what i've just stated.. any tip be welcome |
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