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| FR: First Instant Date - 8/30/08 (feedback needed) https://pick-up-artist-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=27418 |
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| Author: | SirSlick [ Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | FR: First Instant Date - 8/30/08 (feedback needed) |
I'm starting to like day game more and more, as my successes grow. About 8 months ago I started with indirect day game, but I still had bad AA. Now I go direct and have no AA at all. It feels good. I need some feedback on things and they are highlighted in BOLD. It might be long, so thanks for reading and leaving feedback! So after my last day game session, I wrote an FR about that, I told myself to create a simple day game stack for the first few minutes to have a structure for opening, transition, attraction, qualification, and then the bounce. So me, Maui and another guy go shopping at a mall in Glendale. It has both an indoor mall and an outdoor mall, perfect. We get there and do some shopping first because I'm helping Maui out with getting some sexy jeans. I'm still looking for a specific type of shirt so as I walk around I see this hottie walking that's going to be my first set of the day. I can only see her back, but she looks fit, so I chase. SS: (opener) Hi, I noticed you from over there...and I have to say....you are...absolutely....gorgeous. (... denote pauses) [direct contact with smile] Hi I'm SirSlick. [stretch arm] HB: Awww thank you. I'm HB. SS:(transition) I bet you get approached all the time during the day. HB: Actually no not at all. SS: Oh honey, don't lie. I bet you have like 5 boyfriends. I can see it in your eyes. You know exactly what you're doing. You're gonna give me a ticket so I can be number 6. [modified but credit Soul] HB: [laughs] SS: (attraction) Well check this out....I have....8 girlfriends. [stack into 8 girlfriends routine by Brad P] Then immediatly she asked what my age is. I told her to guess and she said 23 (I'm 20). She said she was 26. So in my mind, I'm thinking that if I was say I'm 20, it might an instant turn-off, so I played along and said I'm 23. A little white lie I guess. After that I qualified her. SS: (qualifier) So besides shopping and flirting with hot guys at the mall (pointing at myself), what else do you like to do? HB:....... .... Then she actually suggested to go shopping with her in the store, so she started the instant date. Now I guess that's a good thing. But then we were in the store she was like walking around doing her thing and I sometimes followed her around while I was talking. Now I didn't want to seem needy so sometimes I was just talking to the HG and just looking at girl dresses by myself What should I have done in this case when she walks around in the store? Follow or not? She started giving me tests and luckily nowadays I recognize them (took my about 3 months in the game before I actually knew that women test men) so now I pass them. Nice. HB: Do you always approach girls at the mall? SS: Oh yeah, you're girl #531 of today. After she was done I suggested the bounce and go further on the real instant date, as part of my stack. SS: Hey you seem really cool. I'm actually looking for this specific shirt and you're gonna help me with it. Let's go. HB: Ok Taking the lead here after I was a bit following her in the store. The rest of the instant date was kind of her trying to take the lead, but everytime I had to make sure we were doing it my ways. Good or not? For example, she was looking for a summer dress so I said "okay lets look for it" while I told her earlier (maybe 15 min ago) that I was looking for a shirt. Is this supplicating? Throughout the whole instant date, I made sure that she was comfortable and I made her laugh couple of times. I switched up bantering and comfort stories to make sure that she knew who I really was, while I'm funny. For example, we walked into a shoestore and she said she's very classy so I said to her that we're gonna get her some stripper shoes. So we go into another store and I say to the HG: "For her, we're looking for stripper shoes. They have to be crystal clear," and she punched on the arm. Good! Also, after meeting her 10 min ago and walking around with her, I suggested to get some ice cream. I paid for her ice cream. I would think that this showed some social intuition here and don't make me look like a cheap guy. Good or not? Now I have to say that this girl is loaded. She lives in a rich part of California, apparantly wears new clothes every day, and shops and buys whatever she wants. Also she parties a lot. I was being sexual with her about 10 min later in the interaction. I mean, going direct already kinda shows you're sexual interest, but I wanted to see how it would work out being sexual during the day. I got this from hearing Glenn P on the approachanxiety.com podcast (<a href="http://approachanxiety.com/audio/approa ... ">download here</a>). There he talks about testing girls for sexuality, something I want to experiment with and definitly work on. So for example, when we were shopping for a dress, she bend over and I could see her curves and ass really well. So I just said to her, "Girl, I didn't know you had booty. I like that" and she laughed at it. Or after she finished her ice cream, she said "I'm not really sweet person, I like more salty stuff," so my take on it was "Oh....I know what's salty..." while I look her deeply in her eyes with a slight grin. She punched me. She knew what's up. At the last store, she picked up a dress and immediatly went to the cashier. SS: But honey, you need to fit it first. HB: I've already tried it before. SS: No, daddy hasn't seen it and needs to approve it. HB: You want me to put it on? SS: Yes So she changed in there and showed me her sexy dress. I had the urge to jump in the fitting room, she didn't lock it, but it was right at the front of the entrance and there was a line. If the fitting room was somewhere in the back, I would have gone in and gone wild with her right there..... So she pays for her own dress and I say I have to meetup with a friend. I #close and tell her I'll call her tomorrow to set something up. I'm still not sure yet how solid the number is. Sometimes I had the idea that I was keeping her company while she was just shopping and and wating for her dinner with some guy an hour later (apparently not her BF, maybe some orbiter). I mean, she told me her story and I told her mine. I was bantering, telling her my comfort stories, leading her (she tried a lot to lead me but I had to take the role each time) and being sexual. So I hoped I communicated that I wanted some sort of sexual relationship, because I went sexual with her. I'll call her and see what's going on. I have no expectations at all and I see this as an process. This was one of my first real cold approach instant date, so no expectations. But I would love to escalate further of course |
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| Author: | cool_boy [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:33 pm ] |
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nice post, good for u man. i hope u gt her exactly |
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| Author: | puaer [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:33 pm ] |
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When you both agreed to shop together its pretty difficult to lead when your with a woman. They are the kings of shopping, i think you should have kept pushpulling and saying things like this would look good on you when you find a silly outfit. But you should have led her to help you find something first or it would feel like your following her, but it seems from your post that following did not damage your game. Paying for ice cream is a good thing, day game differs from night game, and since you suggested it, it would have been close to impossible to not pay. |
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