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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FR#102 - RSD Showed Up @ My Club |
FR#102 Date: 8/22/08, Friday Location: Graham Central Station, Night Club I took a nap and got off to a little bit of a late start. I had a busy day, and after work decided to get a haircut. I got a text message from Hilary to hang out, but I told her I was busy. I wanted to get in field again. I woke up from my nap around 10:30 and got ready. I hit downtown near 11:30. I see my buddy Chris, the manager, outside. He comes over to me and hands me a pass without me saying anything. I thank him, and say hello to Jeff who's also working the door. After getting inside I get a Redbull to wake up some and I go to say hello to Bianca, who is working the beer tub. The club is a little slow for this time of night, but I'm not worried about making anything happen. I just want to be out of my place. After talking with Bianca a while, Tanya at the bar waves to me and I check on her. She's had a pretty normal week and she asks how I'm doing, and compliments me on my haircut. After some more small talk I go over and talk to Darby and Alexis (more bartenders). Darby grabs my dogtag that I'm wearing and pulls me closer to read it. She tells me Alexis was asking about you earlier, with a wink. I say you're bullshitting me. Alexis comes over and I ask her if its true and it is. Awwww, how sweet. We start yelling "Wooo!" which is our new inside joke thing when everything is slow there. I post up to talk to her and there is a two set to my right that I think about opening until I see they are only 18 by the black Xs on their hands. I continue to talk to Alexis. Then this 5'8 Indian looking guy, with a blue dress shirt, jeans, dress shoes, and rings approaches them. Something clicks in my mind that I saw him talking to some girls earlier. I watch him for a few seconds and notice he's doing a pretty good job, but he's standing too close and he's not talking to them over the shoulder. He's facing them the entire time which is kind of discomforting but the girls are laughing. I tell Alexis (She's aware of me being a PUA, covered in previous field report) to lean closer to me. I tell her, "This guy is a pickup artist." She says to me, "How do you know?" I say to her that I know by his methods it's obvious to me. She understands and asks me what I'm going to do. I say, "He's been talking to them for 5 minutes now, they're laughing, he's doing okay, but he needs to sit down on that stool next to them." I explain why that is. She agrees with me. She goes off to take someone's drink order and around that time the guy just seems to run out of material and ejects. I beckon him over with my finger. I make sure no one is around to hear. I say, "Hey man how long have you been running game?" He says to me, "Tonight, I'm here with a RSD Bootcamp." I say, "Cool, I'm Jon aka JSmooth I've been doing this for about a year." He introduces himself and we move to an area I can hear him talk for a few. I say to him. "You did a good job getting them to hook and they enjoyed your company. Three fast tips for you though. 1. Don't lean in and you can go over the shoulder to make it not so confrontational. 2. Speak a bit louder and project your voice with energy. 3. Sit down after you open and give your false time constraint, they were getting a bit weirded out with you standing over them. He thanks me for the tips, says a few more things, and goes off. About 5 minutes later he brings over the RSD instructor. This guy is about 5'4, Latino, with a mustache wearing a black and white flanel shirt and jeans. He tells me his name is Ryan. I tell him he's got a good student there, and wish them luck. I go back to my game, because I really don't care. I keep talking up Alexis and roughly another 20 minutes go by and I see this little 18-20 year old blonde girl literally dragging this RSD guy towards the bathroom area by his hand. He's struggling to keep up. She goes into the bathroom and he stands there waiting for her. Okay, I'm not super PUA genius but if that's the quality of their instructors count me out man. In my opinion he shouldn't have let her drag him around. I would have let her go, opened another set for a jealous plotline when she returned, but that's just me. Anyways, it looked pretty bad on the part I saw. I didn't see the whole set, maybe he was winging for the new guy and getting her away from him. I see the newbie open a few girls here and there as I'm just hanging out around the place mostly. I'm tired and don't feel like doing much. Alexis is making sure I have her number and then all of a sudden this cute little 8.5 Latina chick, that's about 5'6 sits down next to me. She says, "this stool wasn't taken was it?" I tell her that it's free. She then laughs and touches me. I say, "Hands off the merchandise." She laughs and touches my arm again this time squeezing it a bit. I start to show a little interest back and I'm touching her when she says things that I like to hear. I put her hand on my knee to check where I'm at and sure enough it stays like a charm. We've been talking for almost half an hour. I figure nows a good time. I say to her, "Hey, I am so hungry I'm going to get some food across the street, you wanna come tag along?" She thinks about it for a second and agrees. We go arm in arm to find her friend to tell her. I leave with her, and say goodbye to a few people including the door guy as I leave. Jeff at the door gives me the nod of approval and we go across the street to Pita Pit. I order my Philly Cheesesteak Pita...yum... and sit down and talk about random stuff for a while. I say to her, "Why am I drawn to you?" She gives me a pretty typical, "I don't know why?" answer. I go into her energy and her positive nature. She's thanking me for the compliments. We finish eating and I say, "Well, this has been fun how can we continue this some time later", and hand her my phone. I get her number. We go out front of the place and I offer to walk her to her vehicle. We walk holding hands and arms around the waist. When we're waiting on a crosswalk light I pull her in for a kiss. We kiss so long we miss the walk light, LOL. Anyways, I get to her car and I'm thinking SNL. I go to the passenger side of her car like I'm going to get in...trying to assume the sell. Why the fuck not right? She asks what I'm doing...I say unlock the door. She says, "You can't go home with me tonight." I say, "Oh, when you offered to walk me to your car I wasn't sure..." I wait for any glimmer of hope, but she looks uncomfortable. I say, "I'm so embarrassed...you see I've never done this before. I mean go home with someone from a club." She ends up apologizing to me. I pin her against the car making out and trying Evolution Phase shift but no luck. Oh well, I put her in her vehicle and walk to my car. Not a bad night considering I wasn't in the mood to game starting out. ***Even though I'm taking a break from everything for a while to get perspective. I did want to post my last field report I wrote.*** |
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| Author: | lionrugi [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:48 am ] |
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good stuff jsmooth, I have another question about something I've seen in your FRs. Although you implement the mystery method structure of attraction-comfort, do you feel that routines are somewhat unneccessary if you can build attraction with cocky/funny and push/pull teasing alone, then go to qualification/comfort? I'm about to try my hand at nightgame this weekend(been doing daygame for about 2 weeks now) and I'm not really huge into routines. Basically to sum up my question, through teasing, cocky/funny and some storytelling/fluff is it possible to build enough attraction to switch to comfort without overusing routines? |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:37 am ] |
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Quote: good stuff jsmooth, I have another question about something I've seen in your FRs. Although you implement the mystery method structure of attraction-comfort, do you feel that routines are somewhat unneccessary if you can build attraction with cocky/funny and push/pull teasing alone, then go to qualification/comfort? I'm about to try my hand at nightgame this weekend(been doing daygame for about 2 weeks now) and I'm not really huge into routines. Basically to sum up my question, through teasing, cocky/funny and some storytelling/fluff is it possible to build enough attraction to switch to comfort without overusing routines?
Great Question. The short answer is yes. I have done enough cocky/funny and push/pull tactics or even bantering alone to work my way through attraction to comfort phase. I don't really use a lot of routines for building attraction. I have stories that I use fairly often but that's about it.
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| Author: | lionrugi [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:51 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: good stuff jsmooth, I have another question about something I've seen in your FRs. Although you implement the mystery method structure of attraction-comfort, do you feel that routines are somewhat unneccessary if you can build attraction with cocky/funny and push/pull teasing alone, then go to qualification/comfort? I'm about to try my hand at nightgame this weekend(been doing daygame for about 2 weeks now) and I'm not really huge into routines. Basically to sum up my question, through teasing, cocky/funny and some storytelling/fluff is it possible to build enough attraction to switch to comfort without overusing routines?
Great Question. The short answer is yes. I have done enough cocky/funny and push/pull tactics or even bantering alone to work my way through attraction to comfort phase. I don't really use a lot of routines for building attraction. I have stories that I use fairly often but that's about it. |
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| Author: | Roads [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:57 am ] |
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J! Welcome back! High five dude! P.S. You couldn't pay me to go to an RSD bootcamp. |
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| Author: | FIKSHEN [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:07 am ] |
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dude, say "I heard that before." or "exactly we're just going to make out like a couple of teenagers in the car" Nice work on the bounce to the car. I was surprised at your response though. You want to make it seem like you do this all the time like its normal. |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:57 am ] |
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Quote: J! Welcome Back! High Five Dude!
I'm haven't decided to come back or not I was just answering a question that seemed easy enough.Quote: dude, say "I heard that before." or "exactly we're just going to make out like a couple of teenagers in the car"
Okay let's look at this for a moment. I go to the car door that's assuming. She asks what I'm doing. I still stand there and looking at her say well you asked me to walk you to your car...so I wasn't sure... there is a pause there. I was still standing on the passenger side of the car. That to pressure things.Nice work on the bounce to the car. I was surprised at your response though. You want to make it seem like you do this all the time like its normal. As I mentioned I saw she was uncomfortable, that's why I backed up. As it may be normal for me to make out or have sex with girls in cars it's probably not normal for her. I see your point, but everyone has different points that they push the interactions. I stepped back to keep her comfortable. I ended up getting a day 2 with her and the make out wasn't a problem. I don't mind pushing a little for a Single Night Lay because women expect you to push the interaction. If it happens then great. Ultimately I want a relationship so my real goal when I'm out is to find a good looking woman with some personality and get a solid Day 2 out of it. |
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| Author: | jsquared [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:31 pm ] |
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*Bows to tha masta* J if you aren't the man then I don't know who is =P |
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| Author: | FIKSHEN [ Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:50 am ] |
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Yeah cool. Depends what your goal is. I reckon you could have got the SNL had you pushed it. She might have felt uncomfortable but you could have plowed through it. If you feel confident you can get the Day 2 then cool. No one has commented yet, but maybe you can help critique my Day Game day 2 (further down on the FRs) |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:31 pm ] |
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Quote: *Bows to tha masta*
RESPECT! J if you aren't the man then I don't know who is =P Quote: Yeah cool. Depends what your goal is. I reckon you could have got the SNL had you pushed it. She might have felt uncomfortable but you could have plowed through it. If you feel confident you can get the Day 2 then cool. No one has commented yet, but maybe you can help critique my Day Game day 2 (further down on the FRs)
Yeah, I got the day 2 I wanted!
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| Author: | Sutko [ Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:41 pm ] |
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Another solid FR. I wouldn't mind winging for someone with game as solid as yours! I do agree that you could have probably pushed the car scene a bit more - push/pull - instead of saying that you never do this, which seems like you're just trying to get in her pants, the 'making out like teenagers in the car' thing can be cocky/funny, and non-threatening enough to work. After all, you've already k-closed, so it's just a new venue. Regardless, solid game, and you got the result that you wanted, so who am I to judge? hahah... |
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